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	<title>Comments on: Tonex - Down Low or Down Right Depraved?</title>
	<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved</link>
	<description>Speaking plainly about the pimpery in the pulpits.</description>
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		<title>By: King's Kid</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61980</link>
		<dc:creator>King's Kid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor DL,

I looked the pictures of the commenter's, &lt;strong&gt;they are young and perishing because of "lack of knowledge"&lt;/strong&gt;  that is the most unfortunate part of this matter.  And we all are partially accountable for this condition.  With as many people, in this nation alone, that profess Christendom  (I can't even say C********y) who take pride in the knowledge that they have the favor, gifting, and the spirit,  of the LORD which they claim to love and that loves them unconditionally, &lt;strong&gt;there is no way that the devil should be winning the battles (we true believers know that he has lost the war) that are being handed to him in today's society.&lt;/strong&gt;
 
God is not pleased.  Just think about it, His so-called followers are bringing shame to His name while we concern ourselves with all of the nonsensical issues that we find ourselves involved in.  Who is there to teach the truth?  Who is there to lead by example?  Who is there that believes you should fear the Lord?  Who are their role models? Who is raising them? Have we forgotten that they are our future?  Our future looks extremely bleak.


It is so spooky to me, I could cry , for real.   I am serious, we need to practice being intercessors, our children are targeted by an enemy that we have allowed to creep in while we were unaware (doing our thing).  Is that not the "mantra of the day"?    &lt;strong&gt;“Keeping It Real”--“Doing your thang”--"I'm Doing Me"&lt;/strong&gt; (new slang).
 
We have got to pray, and let the Truth of God's Word be told.
 
Father help us.
Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor DL,</p>
<p>I looked the pictures of the commenter&#8217;s, <strong>they are young and perishing because of &#8220;lack of knowledge&#8221;</strong>  that is the most unfortunate part of this matter.  And we all are partially accountable for this condition.  With as many people, in this nation alone, that profess Christendom  (I can&#8217;t even say C********y) who take pride in the knowledge that they have the favor, gifting, and the spirit,  of the LORD which they claim to love and that loves them unconditionally, <strong>there is no way that the devil should be winning the battles (we true believers know that he has lost the war) that are being handed to him in today&#8217;s society.</strong></p>
<p>God is not pleased.  Just think about it, His so-called followers are bringing shame to His name while we concern ourselves with all of the nonsensical issues that we find ourselves involved in.  Who is there to teach the truth?  Who is there to lead by example?  Who is there that believes you should fear the Lord?  Who are their role models? Who is raising them? Have we forgotten that they are our future?  Our future looks extremely bleak.</p>
<p>It is so spooky to me, I could cry , for real.   I am serious, we need to practice being intercessors, our children are targeted by an enemy that we have allowed to creep in while we were unaware (doing our thing).  Is that not the &#8220;mantra of the day&#8221;?    <strong>“Keeping It Real”&#8211;“Doing your thang”&#8211;&#8221;I&#8217;m Doing Me&#8221;</strong> (new slang).</p>
<p>We have got to pray, and let the Truth of God&#8217;s Word be told.</p>
<p>Father help us.<br />
Peace</p>
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		<title>By: djenk23</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61967</link>
		<dc:creator>djenk23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61967</guid>
		<description>whoomp, there it is.....i figured that he had become a Universalist...my suspicion started when I saw him on Carlton Pearson's story on BET...2 Timothy 4:3-4 in full effect...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoomp, there it is&#8230;..i figured that he had become a Universalist&#8230;my suspicion started when I saw him on Carlton Pearson&#8217;s story on BET&#8230;<a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=2+Timothy+4%3A3-4" title="English Standard Version Bible">2 Timothy 4:3-4</a> in full effect&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: trayjay</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61953</link>
		<dc:creator>trayjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61953</guid>
		<description>Thanks, GaryV.  It is a shame how true it is that many "Christians" will indeed still buy his garbage.  What's even sadder, it will work its way into the "worship" services at many churches.  People are always so quick to call someone or something anointed without knowing what the anointing does.  It destroys the yoke; it does not protect, coddle, or cushion it - it destroys it.  The fact that these people are making declarations in support of what God has condemned, with the support of more and more so-called Christians, is a true mark of the apostasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, GaryV.  It is a shame how true it is that many &#8220;Christians&#8221; will indeed still buy his garbage.  What&#8217;s even sadder, it will work its way into the &#8220;worship&#8221; services at many churches.  People are always so quick to call someone or something anointed without knowing what the anointing does.  It destroys the yoke; it does not protect, coddle, or cushion it - it destroys it.  The fact that these people are making declarations in support of what God has condemned, with the support of more and more so-called Christians, is a true mark of the apostasy.</p>
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		<title>By: daughter</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61946</link>
		<dc:creator>daughter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GaryV: That is shockingly bad. Even worse, I know that there will be so many people, even professed believers, that will think that what he's saying is cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GaryV: That is shockingly bad. Even worse, I know that there will be so many people, even professed believers, that will think that what he&#8217;s saying is cool.</p>
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		<title>By: NHB</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61939</link>
		<dc:creator>NHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 05:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61939</guid>
		<description>Thanks for more information... Not a fan of Tonex, just didnt know if the myspace page was credible.  I went back to the page today and NOW his background picture is of him lying in bed with only underwear on, plus he has pics of him in the shower and all other types of inappropriate pictures that I would be embarrased of it were my pastor.  Honestly, I still have not come across anything that confirms or denies his sexual orientation, (even though I he is gay) but I have now come across a mass of information which makes me believe that he should be ministering to NO ONE!!!! And then when he is cursing, people are applauding him!  I can't lie and say I have not occasionally slipped, but I don't think that I am walking in my annointing if I am profane.  These people are so gullible and trying to make Christianity as convenient as a number 4 Value Meal. 

Sidebar:  His radio interview is very VERY spooky, why do I feel like I am listening to love talk and slow jams.  This is a pastor/musician right?  Whether gay, straight or bi, it is undeniable that he is WEIRD.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for more information&#8230; Not a fan of Tonex, just didnt know if the myspace page was credible.  I went back to the page today and NOW his background picture is of him lying in bed with only underwear on, plus he has pics of him in the shower and all other types of inappropriate pictures that I would be embarrased of it were my pastor.  Honestly, I still have not come across anything that confirms or denies his sexual orientation, (even though I he is gay) but I have now come across a mass of information which makes me believe that he should be ministering to NO ONE!!!! And then when he is cursing, people are applauding him!  I can&#8217;t lie and say I have not occasionally slipped, but I don&#8217;t think that I am walking in my annointing if I am profane.  These people are so gullible and trying to make Christianity as convenient as a number 4 Value Meal. </p>
<p>Sidebar:  His radio interview is very VERY spooky, why do I feel like I am listening to love talk and slow jams.  This is a pastor/musician right?  Whether gay, straight or bi, it is undeniable that he is WEIRD&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61931</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61931</guid>
		<description>Cheers, all.  It seems to be authentic.  I tracked down various links to the same site and page, and I was surprised to find that it has been cleaned up a bit in the last week.  The overall drivel of pseudotheology remains, but the obsenities are removed.  It seems that Melvin has it right.  And thanks to all for sparing me any more time with listening to this man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, all.  It seems to be authentic.  I tracked down various links to the same site and page, and I was surprised to find that it has been cleaned up a bit in the last week.  The overall drivel of pseudotheology remains, but the obsenities are removed.  It seems that Melvin has it right.  And thanks to all for sparing me any more time with listening to this man.</p>
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		<title>By: sovereignGracePreacha</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61914</link>
		<dc:creator>sovereignGracePreacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61914</guid>
		<description>i guess the question that i would have, since i haven't seen the video, is Tonex really gay?  Or is he simply saying in his video that people call him gay?  I've seen his interview on youtube and it's ambiguous on this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i guess the question that i would have, since i haven&#8217;t seen the video, is Tonex really gay?  Or is he simply saying in his video that people call him gay?  I&#8217;ve seen his interview on youtube and it&#8217;s ambiguous on this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: sovereignGracePreacha</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61902</link>
		<dc:creator>sovereignGracePreacha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melvin, please help me!!  I can't find the link to learning about the new Tonex.  I want to read this and know it for myself!!  Please help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melvin, please help me!!  I can&#8217;t find the link to learning about the new Tonex.  I want to read this and know it for myself!!  Please help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter O.</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61897</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61897</guid>
		<description>I agree about the unsaved. They read one passage without looking at the verses before and after to get the content and entirety of what God is saying. Then suddenly the are biblical experts. Amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the unsaved. They read one passage without looking at the verses before and after to get the content and entirety of what God is saying. Then suddenly the are biblical experts. Amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61830</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul...........WHERE to send the OVERFLOW?!?!? THE OVERFLOW?!?!?! 

Where is your "profitic" anointing??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..WHERE to send the OVERFLOW?!?!? THE OVERFLOW?!?!?! </p>
<p>Where is your &#8220;profitic&#8221; anointing??</p>
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		<title>By: Godlysoldier</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61782</link>
		<dc:creator>Godlysoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 06:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks GaryV for your "selfless" act of enduring this for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks GaryV for your &#8220;selfless&#8221; act of enduring this for us.</p>
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		<title>By: dickkopf</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61780</link>
		<dc:creator>dickkopf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61780</guid>
		<description>Hello, GaryV:

You penned, "&lt;i&gt;OK Y’all,don’t say I never did anything for you.&lt;/i&gt;"

You are my friend for life. Because of you and others in the Pulpit Pimps Pantheon of Bible Pundits, I have been regaled with y'all's insight from, and experiences in the African-American community.

Heck, I had never heard of Tonex prior to reading this whole discussion.

By the way, I got a raise today, and have some "overflow." To whom can I give it? (Only to receive my hundred-fold return, of course.)

&lt;strong&gt;(MN:&lt;/strong&gt;  &lt;em&gt;C'MON!  How long have you been reading this site that you should have to ask a question like that?  Send you overflow to the Melvinite Temple of Wonderful and Amazing Happenings of course. &lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, GaryV:</p>
<p>You penned, &#8220;<i>OK Y’all,don’t say I never did anything for you.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>You are my friend for life. Because of you and others in the Pulpit Pimps Pantheon of Bible Pundits, I have been regaled with y&#8217;all&#8217;s insight from, and experiences in the African-American community.</p>
<p>Heck, I had never heard of Tonex prior to reading this whole discussion.</p>
<p>By the way, I got a raise today, and have some &#8220;overflow.&#8221; To whom can I give it? (Only to receive my hundred-fold return, of course.)</p>
<p><strong>(MN:</strong>  <em>C&#8217;MON!  How long have you been reading this site that you should have to ask a question like that?  Send you overflow to the Melvinite Temple of Wonderful and Amazing Happenings of course. </em> <strong>)</strong></p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61763</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61763</guid>
		<description>Right.......but He DOES it (as the Scriptures testify) through His Word. Where was I unclear??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230;&#8230;.but He DOES it (as the Scriptures testify) through His Word. Where was I unclear??</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61762</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61762</guid>
		<description>Thanks mjasog!! You're exactly right about the radio interview. I'll give a brief synopsis.......The first part of the Tonex interview on the Gay Christian program (Out The Box with Tim Dillinger) starts at 33:40, and in the second installment it begins right after the music and at about the 30 minute mark Tonex begins regaling us with the Gospel of Inclusion, and excoriating anyone who doesn't accept Buddhism or isn't willing to call God "Allah". He's of the "Apostolic" belief, so his oddities and disregard for the Word are no surprise.

Talks about playing that song (whatever it was) that goes "What if God was one of us, just a slob like one of us" in church and thought it profound.

He glorifies Carlton Pearson and the Inclusion Gospel, calling Carlton a "genius" and a modern day Galileo who will go down in history. So again, it becomes clearer how he manages to disregard the Word so smoothly. After all, we are ALL going to be saved no matter what. 

Tonex also states that a lot of the New Testament is derived from Greek myths and philosophy. 

Said Carlton made him see that God wasn't trying to kill him. This relates to a previous statement that God isn't a God of wrath like in the OT anymore. Talks to Carlton twice a week (so much for those who said what Carlton preaches is harmless).

Said he's seen witches turn to Jesus, and that instead of condemning we should teach the witches that they are ALREADY saved, they just need to acknowledge the Blood.

Talks about "Bishop" Yvette Flunder, another "Gospel of Inclusionist who calls the church's rejection of homosexuality a “psychosis” and “oppression”, Flunder said:

    This sickness has resulted in the destruction of self-esteem, open vicious attack against the personhood of countless individuals and their families and has produced self inflicted theological and physical violence, duplicity and inauthentic leadership…”

She is Bishop(ette??) over a church much like the Metropolitan Community Church, known for its celebration of unrepentant Gay Christianity.

Tonex says when he thinks of how anointed she is he wants to cry, and "she gets it". She can just say "Hey" and you feel the anointed because she is so in tune with the truth. She's the "zenith".

More pimping of the gay oriented Metropolitan Community Church as well as the Bishopettes' City Of Refuge gay affirming church.

Also praising the Social Gospel along with its denigration of Christ. 

Tonex says deliverance doesn't mean to stop doing what you're doing (not freedom from sin). Deliverance is the freedom to worship. 

He has tracks on new albums with Dre and Snoop, Pussy Cat Dolls, working on Usher's new record, Shakira's new record, Janet Jackson, and has a new movie coming out.

As for criticism of working with these artists, "These niggas ain't going to tell me what to do." Says we will all buy his stuff anyway.

Host says he's not a Christian,he's one of God's kids. Tonex agrees and adds "Rainbow kids".

Tonex is also offering "Life Coaching" now too.......well, sign me up.

OK Y'all,don't say I never did anything for you. I sat through 4 hours of this drivel to give you the scoop and save you the aggravation and flood of obscenity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks mjasog!! You&#8217;re exactly right about the radio interview. I&#8217;ll give a brief synopsis&#8230;&#8230;.The first part of the Tonex interview on the Gay Christian program (Out The Box with Tim Dillinger) starts at 33:40, and in the second installment it begins right after the music and at about the 30 minute mark Tonex begins regaling us with the Gospel of Inclusion, and excoriating anyone who doesn&#8217;t accept Buddhism or isn&#8217;t willing to call God &#8220;Allah&#8221;. He&#8217;s of the &#8220;Apostolic&#8221; belief, so his oddities and disregard for the Word are no surprise.</p>
<p>Talks about playing that song (whatever it was) that goes &#8220;What if God was one of us, just a slob like one of us&#8221; in church and thought it profound.</p>
<p>He glorifies Carlton Pearson and the Inclusion Gospel, calling Carlton a &#8220;genius&#8221; and a modern day Galileo who will go down in history. So again, it becomes clearer how he manages to disregard the Word so smoothly. After all, we are ALL going to be saved no matter what. </p>
<p>Tonex also states that a lot of the New Testament is derived from Greek myths and philosophy. </p>
<p>Said Carlton made him see that God wasn&#8217;t trying to kill him. This relates to a previous statement that God isn&#8217;t a God of wrath like in the OT anymore. Talks to Carlton twice a week (so much for those who said what Carlton preaches is harmless).</p>
<p>Said he&#8217;s seen witches turn to Jesus, and that instead of condemning we should teach the witches that they are ALREADY saved, they just need to acknowledge the Blood.</p>
<p>Talks about &#8220;Bishop&#8221; Yvette Flunder, another &#8220;Gospel of Inclusionist who calls the church&#8217;s rejection of homosexuality a “psychosis” and “oppression”, Flunder said:</p>
<p>    This sickness has resulted in the destruction of self-esteem, open vicious attack against the personhood of countless individuals and their families and has produced self inflicted theological and physical violence, duplicity and inauthentic leadership…”</p>
<p>She is Bishop(ette??) over a church much like the Metropolitan Community Church, known for its celebration of unrepentant Gay Christianity.</p>
<p>Tonex says when he thinks of how anointed she is he wants to cry, and &#8220;she gets it&#8221;. She can just say &#8220;Hey&#8221; and you feel the anointed because she is so in tune with the truth. She&#8217;s the &#8220;zenith&#8221;.</p>
<p>More pimping of the gay oriented Metropolitan Community Church as well as the Bishopettes&#8217; City Of Refuge gay affirming church.</p>
<p>Also praising the Social Gospel along with its denigration of Christ. </p>
<p>Tonex says deliverance doesn&#8217;t mean to stop doing what you&#8217;re doing (not freedom from sin). Deliverance is the freedom to worship. </p>
<p>He has tracks on new albums with Dre and Snoop, Pussy Cat Dolls, working on Usher&#8217;s new record, Shakira&#8217;s new record, Janet Jackson, and has a new movie coming out.</p>
<p>As for criticism of working with these artists, &#8220;These niggas ain&#8217;t going to tell me what to do.&#8221; Says we will all buy his stuff anyway.</p>
<p>Host says he&#8217;s not a Christian,he&#8217;s one of God&#8217;s kids. Tonex agrees and adds &#8220;Rainbow kids&#8221;.</p>
<p>Tonex is also offering &#8220;Life Coaching&#8221; now too&#8230;&#8230;.well, sign me up.</p>
<p>OK Y&#8217;all,don&#8217;t say I never did anything for you. I sat through 4 hours of this drivel to give you the scoop and save you the aggravation and flood of obscenity.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61759</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn't misreport Melvin. Here is a link to Tonex's interview on a (oxymoron alert) "Gay Christian" radio program where he confirms everything we've been discussing on this thread concerning him.

http://outtheboxwithtimdillinger.blogspot.com/2008/02/tonex-interview-this-sunday-on-out-box_06.html

You can download the interviews with Tonex (and Carlton Pearson, and a plethora of other homosexual church attendees) from iTunes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t misreport Melvin. Here is a link to Tonex&#8217;s interview on a (oxymoron alert) &#8220;Gay Christian&#8221; radio program where he confirms everything we&#8217;ve been discussing on this thread concerning him.</p>
<p><a href="http://outtheboxwithtimdillinger.blogspot.com/2008/02/tonex-interview-this-sunday-on-out-box_06.html" rel="nofollow">http://outtheboxwithtimdillinger.blogspot.com/2008/02/tonex-interview-this-sunday-on-out-box_06.html</a></p>
<p>You can download the interviews with Tonex (and Carlton Pearson, and a plethora of other homosexual church attendees) from iTunes.</p>
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		<title>By: Nothing But The Word of God</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61754</link>
		<dc:creator>Nothing But The Word of God</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61754</guid>
		<description>This is what the bible says in 2Tim2:25-26

[25] In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; IF GOD PERADVENTURE WILL GIVE THEM REPENTANCE TO THE ACKNOWLEDGING OF THE TRUTH;
[26] And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what the bible says in 2Tim2:25-26</p>
<p>[25] In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; IF GOD PERADVENTURE WILL GIVE THEM REPENTANCE TO THE ACKNOWLEDGING OF THE TRUTH;<br />
[26] And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61745</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61745</guid>
		<description>Anonymous, you're absolutely correct that repentance is given by God alone.However, God not only grants repentance, He grants the METHOD by which men are brought to repentance, which is the hearing of the Word.

It's the same principle in Salvation. God alone grants it, but He also grants the METHOD by which saving faith is conferred: The preaching of the Word.

Romans 10:17So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God

Acts 15:7
 God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.


 2 Tim 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

So you see, God has ordained that repentance and salvation are both brought about through the ministry of the Word. Therefore, for those who care about Tonex's eternal destiny, the only means God has designated to bring him to repentance is to confront him with the Word.

We can't MAKE Tonex repent. Tonex can't MAKE himself repent. Only God can do that, and He has chosen to do so through the presentation of the Word.

Remember, it is the Word that COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent.

Acts 17:30
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth &lt;b&gt;(through the Word)&lt;/b&gt; all men every where to repent:

 When we call for his repentance by citing the Word, we are not telling him to make himself repent. We are presenting him with the only means on earth which God uses to BRING people to repentance........The Word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, you&#8217;re absolutely correct that repentance is given by God alone.However, God not only grants repentance, He grants the METHOD by which men are brought to repentance, which is the hearing of the Word.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same principle in Salvation. God alone grants it, but He also grants the METHOD by which saving faith is conferred: The preaching of the Word.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Romans+10%3A17" title="English Standard Version Bible">Romans 10:17</a>So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+15%3A7" title="English Standard Version Bible">Acts 15:7</a><br />
 God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Romans+1%3A16" title="English Standard Version Bible">Romans 1:16</a><br />
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=2+Tim+2%3A25" title="English Standard Version Bible">2 Tim 2:25</a> In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;</p>
<p>So you see, God has ordained that repentance and salvation are both brought about through the ministry of the Word. Therefore, for those who care about Tonex&#8217;s eternal destiny, the only means God has designated to bring him to repentance is to confront him with the Word.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t MAKE Tonex repent. Tonex can&#8217;t MAKE himself repent. Only God can do that, and He has chosen to do so through the presentation of the Word.</p>
<p>Remember, it is the Word that COMMANDS all men everywhere to repent.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?go=Go&amp;q=Acts+17%3A30" title="English Standard Version Bible">Acts 17:30</a><br />
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth <b>(through the Word)</b> all men every where to repent:</p>
<p> When we call for his repentance by citing the Word, we are not telling him to make himself repent. We are presenting him with the only means on earth which God uses to BRING people to repentance&#8230;&#8230;..The Word.</p>
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		<title>By: mjasog</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61724</link>
		<dc:creator>mjasog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61724</guid>
		<description>If you look at the various youtube posts of Tonex you will see that he indicated that his new page would be "theofficialtonex" myspace page.  Also, if you search on google, you will see that he did an interview with a gay/Christian/Jazz radio station where he announced that he had a different orientation.  Lastly, I was speaking with a pastor who told me that he recently, on the Yolanda Adams Morning Show, said that he had changed his orientation.  The page itself is very authentic that's why it is promoting his recent production of a song for Omarion.  Anyone who thinks it's not him is just in denial.  Keep up the good job Melvin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at the various youtube posts of Tonex you will see that he indicated that his new page would be &#8220;theofficialtonex&#8221; myspace page.  Also, if you search on google, you will see that he did an interview with a gay/Christian/Jazz radio station where he announced that he had a different orientation.  Lastly, I was speaking with a pastor who told me that he recently, on the Yolanda Adams Morning Show, said that he had changed his orientation.  The page itself is very authentic that&#8217;s why it is promoting his recent production of a song for Omarion.  Anyone who thinks it&#8217;s not him is just in denial.  Keep up the good job Melvin.</p>
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		<title>By: Seekerman</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61723</link>
		<dc:creator>Seekerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61723</guid>
		<description>I think the part about Tonex accepting Universalism (everyone will eventually wind up in heaven), is right on the money.  I remember on the BET show "Exalted," that featured Carlton Pearson, he said something akin to: "Most ministers agree with him (Carlton's universalism beliefs), but are afraid to admit that he's right."

He said this, as if to endorse such beliefs.

Besides, I knew of Tonex's angst with the church, a couple of years ago, when he was going through his divorce, and complaining how the church was too stiffnecked and judgmental for him.

So no, I think the website is authentic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the part about Tonex accepting Universalism (everyone will eventually wind up in heaven), is right on the money.  I remember on the BET show &#8220;Exalted,&#8221; that featured Carlton Pearson, he said something akin to: &#8220;Most ministers agree with him (Carlton&#8217;s universalism beliefs), but are afraid to admit that he&#8217;s right.&#8221;</p>
<p>He said this, as if to endorse such beliefs.</p>
<p>Besides, I knew of Tonex&#8217;s angst with the church, a couple of years ago, when he was going through his divorce, and complaining how the church was too stiffnecked and judgmental for him.</p>
<p>So no, I think the website is authentic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Conservative</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61722</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61722</guid>
		<description>That's his blog.  Everyone was fully accepting that as the OFFICIAL Tonex MySpace page for a very long time now.  It's where he promoted all his new material and everything, especially once he lost some notoriety.

It's his page and Melvin, you were given bad advice because someone didn't want this exposed, or they just don't want to believe it can be true, it's true.

Does he have to kill somebody for some of you to realize a false brother in your midst?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s his blog.  Everyone was fully accepting that as the OFFICIAL Tonex MySpace page for a very long time now.  It&#8217;s where he promoted all his new material and everything, especially once he lost some notoriety.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s his page and Melvin, you were given bad advice because someone didn&#8217;t want this exposed, or they just don&#8217;t want to believe it can be true, it&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>Does he have to kill somebody for some of you to realize a false brother in your midst?</p>
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		<title>By: Tweet</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61715</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61715</guid>
		<description>If I am not mistaken, the MySpace page with the b&#38;w pic and all the blogs is in fact his official page.  Yes, there are fan sites out there, but all of what Tonex has said on this one particular MySpace page is in line with all the other stuff he has out there (i.e. vlogs on youtube, interview with Tim Dillinger from Out the Box).  I'm almost confident that during one of his interviews, he mentioned his MySpace page.  

Plus, if this wasn't his page, he would &lt;b&gt;surely&lt;/b&gt; speak out about it (since he isn't one for biting his tongue).  Many artists who have pages made in their honor have made a statement indicating which are "fan" pages and which are pages of their own creation or run by their label representatives.  

Upon sharing his Road Less Traveled blog (and the ones he has written since) with someone who knows him, they said this is something he has been doing/saying for years, but it is just now hitting more people.  Apparently, he is a creature of habit. :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I am not mistaken, the MySpace page with the b&amp;w pic and all the blogs is in fact his official page.  Yes, there are fan sites out there, but all of what Tonex has said on this one particular MySpace page is in line with all the other stuff he has out there (i.e. vlogs on youtube, interview with Tim Dillinger from Out the Box).  I&#8217;m almost confident that during one of his interviews, he mentioned his MySpace page.  </p>
<p>Plus, if this wasn&#8217;t his page, he would <b>surely</b> speak out about it (since he isn&#8217;t one for biting his tongue).  Many artists who have pages made in their honor have made a statement indicating which are &#8220;fan&#8221; pages and which are pages of their own creation or run by their label representatives.  </p>
<p>Upon sharing his Road Less Traveled blog (and the ones he has written since) with someone who knows him, they said this is something he has been doing/saying for years, but it is just now hitting more people.  Apparently, he is a creature of habit. :-/</p>
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		<title>By: NHB</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61711</link>
		<dc:creator>NHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61711</guid>
		<description>I was there as well and agree with you 100%.  When he performed, so called ministered, whatever, his voice was BEAUTIFUL, but something was not right in the atmosphere...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there as well and agree with you 100%.  When he performed, so called ministered, whatever, his voice was BEAUTIFUL, but something was not right in the atmosphere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: N'Catina</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61710</link>
		<dc:creator>N'Catina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61710</guid>
		<description>For anyone looking for Tonex's "official page," do a MySpace search, type in "Tonex" and scroll until you see a black male, shirtless, with his back to the camera.  The page is in dark grey with the CK (Calvin Klein) insignia and skinny model in the template.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone looking for Tonex&#8217;s &#8220;official page,&#8221; do a MySpace search, type in &#8220;Tonex&#8221; and scroll until you see a black male, shirtless, with his back to the camera.  The page is in dark grey with the CK (Calvin Klein) insignia and skinny model in the template.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61704</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61704</guid>
		<description>Respectfully, I suggest that you take down this particular blog post list until this is resolved.  This is the danger in blowing the whistle.  Occasionally, you may be wrong.  This weekend, all who have posted here should assist you in this process.

Yours in Christ,
Merlin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully, I suggest that you take down this particular blog post list until this is resolved.  This is the danger in blowing the whistle.  Occasionally, you may be wrong.  This weekend, all who have posted here should assist you in this process.</p>
<p>Yours in Christ,<br />
Merlin</p>
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		<title>By: NHB</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61686</link>
		<dc:creator>NHB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 06:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2008/02/15/tonex-down-low-or-down-right-depraved#comment-61686</guid>
		<description>Are we sure that this is his official page, b/c Tonex has two "official pages" and the other is nothing like this one... I'm not a Tonex fan and never have been, heard him sing once when he was visiting my old church, but is myspace the only source b/c people are famous for faking pages of the famous.... Not defending, but is there any more proof????

&lt;strong&gt;(MN: &lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;You may in fact be correct.  I got an e-mail from Brenda in Baltimore about a day ago.  She pointed out that there are several Tonex sites.  I then did a Google search and came up with a bunch of MySPace sites.  At this point, I am trying to figure out just what is out there, and just what is going on.  I hope I didn't get sucked in to a Hezekiah Walker type trap.  I avoided that one a couple of years ago.  

I hope I didn't misreport.  As I have consistently maintained, once a rumor is put out there it's really tough to get back.  Now that the suspicion that this might not be a site he is contributing to has developed, I have to figure out what's going on.&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;)&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we sure that this is his official page, b/c Tonex has two &#8220;official pages&#8221; and the other is nothing like this one&#8230; I&#8217;m not a Tonex fan and never have been, heard him sing once when he was visiting my old church, but is myspace the only source b/c people are famous for faking pages of the famous&#8230;. Not defending, but is there any more proof????</p>
<p><strong>(MN: </strong> <em>You may in fact be correct.  I got an e-mail from Brenda in Baltimore about a day ago.  She pointed out that there are several Tonex sites.  I then did a Google search and came up with a bunch of MySPace sites.  At this point, I am trying to figure out just what is out there, and just what is going on.  I hope I didn&#8217;t get sucked in to a Hezekiah Walker type trap.  I avoided that one a couple of years ago.  </p>
<p>I hope I didn&#8217;t misreport.  As I have consistently maintained, once a rumor is put out there it&#8217;s really tough to get back.  Now that the suspicion that this might not be a site he is contributing to has developed, I have to figure out what&#8217;s going on.</em> <strong>)</strong></p>
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