Comments on: Standing Up for the Truth

By: phillyflash

phillyflash — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:56:26 +0000

Melvin,

I sent the money to anathema lane so I hope you didn’t change the address:)

Happy Thanksgiving to each and every one of you!!!!

By: GaryV

GaryV — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:23:48 +0000

Philly, I’ve moved beyond jealousy to envy. Other deadly sins to come,stay tuned.

By: blackandreformed

blackandreformed — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:46:02 +0000

Though I have never spoken with Pastor John personally, I know him through a close friend and he has done a great deal of service for the body of Christ. Saiko also stands tall for the Lord. His passion for the Glory of God is immeasurable. His passion for sound doctrine and orthodoxy is even greater. I wish I could make it this year, but maybe next. Hopefully they can put one on in the Dirty, Dirty next time. Houston is beautiful this time of the year!

By: phillyflash

phillyflash — Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:37:29 +0000

Hi All,

Did any of you have the chance to listen to Pastor John’s webcast last night? He and Pastor Woods are very strong and I know jealousy is a sin, but I am SO jealous of anyone who’s going to that conference!

Melvin, will you please take notes for me?

(MN: Sure. And for a love offering of $77.77 I’ll even send them to you. You, of course, have to pay shipping and handling.

Actually, if John and Saiko okay it, I will try to post their materials out on the site for your and others’ examination. )

By: Brenda

Brenda — Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:46:24 +0000

GV…..
You may have something there not to mention my breakthough coming of my house getting paid off, my debt being gone, and last but lawd not least, my husband is on the way. As the man of gawd TD Jakes would say “get ready, get ready, get ready, it’s on the way….

By: Phil Perkins

Phil Perkins — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:50:26 +0000

Few are there who find it, remember? If it was a large crowd, we’d be on our way to hell.

Anyway, hi, Melvin. I see you are still fighting the good fight.

In Christ,
Phil Perkins.

(MN: And you’re still doing good work over at Al Tosap Al Davaraiv.

By: GaryV

GaryV — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 12:25:42 +0000

Brenda, maybe God is giving you a return on all your “seed” you planted in all those WOF conferences with this free one?? If I were you I’d go out and buy a Lotto ticket just in case. Maybe He still owes you part of the “hundred-fold”

By: My Girl Barbie

My Girl Barbie — Sat, 17 Nov 2007 02:39:51 +0000

Watch that line, “I’m doing this so I don’t have to take a dime from the church!” That’s how my former pastor hood-winked the congregation. The next thing we know, the “real estate investor” he brought to grow the church’s building fund was being investigated by the federal authorities.

And as the following blogger said, “Where did he get the money for the initial real estate purchases?” Hmmmm?

By: brenda

brenda — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 19:47:41 +0000

I could remember when I was under the WOFER spell I would not miss a PAY conference. Heck I even been on a conference committee board. Now that am walking in the light, am not going to miss a FREE one on TRUTH, NJ here I come. See you all there…..smilesss

By: angela trent

angela trent — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:37:58 +0000

Now that’s a trick question for a pimp. Where does he get the money for real estate? From his (fill in the blanks). He’s got game.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:35:39 +0000

this is because the wealth accelerator is totally separate from the ministry. he has invested into real estate and now he teaches others how to do that. because of that he now no longer takes any money from the church. how many other preachers do that?

By: CF

CF — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:22:43 +0000

Lafe, I very much wish I was exaggerating but I know these pastors and evangelists personally. It is just so easy to get caught up into that world and its the enemy. I am an evangelist myself and have watched many get the warnings from their pastors and even my pastor about the dangers of going into the lions den without the Spirit of God leading and guiding you. But they don’t fast and pray or heed the warnings. The big names start calling for them and there they go its “Your Time To Shine”. They get caught up in the lifestyle, fame, glamour, and money and lose all sight on spirituality and God running in those circles. We call it taking the package. One guy I know in particular had started evangelizing and we all knew he was destined for pastorship. He could preach and break the word down so wonderfully. He was just skillfull and was very annointed and they started garnering after him. Pastor’s got jealous of him and his head got large. He messed around and started taking that package. Next thing he was one of the ones they were sending the hookers to his room. He started going to small time strip clubs and pretending that he was somebody famous and getting favors from these women under false pretenses. He went way down and even did jail time. He said he got caught up and that evil got on him so that it just had his mind and the only thing that was gonna deliver him was Jesus. He said it took him getting put in jail to realize he had to make a change and start back running after God.
When I see these pastors taking all this money and doing nothing for the people but fleecing them and taking advantage. I know it is just another form of taking that package. The package that the enemy gives, greed, lust, and selfish, self-centered, seeking to serve self mentality.

By: Godlysoldier

Godlysoldier — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:39:09 +0000

All I can say is, I once was lost, but now I’m found, was blind, but now I see…and I’m NOT talking about the day I accepted Jesus as Lord and Saviour, I’m talking about being “set free” from the deception and false teachers in the Kingdom of God. My prayer is that other “deceived” sheep will have the eyes of their understanding enlightened and escape before they too fall in the ditch. Keep being the vessel God is using you for at such a time as this to expose the wolves that are preaching “another gospel”

By: GaryV

GaryV — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:35:00 +0000

CF, that’s pretty sad. Why not ask John Coleman to come out??

By: Jahnea

Jahnea — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:26:22 +0000

Melvin, I am so glad you posted this event “Standing up for the truth” Conference. I did not know anything about it, and It is so close to home, for I live in Newark, New Jersey. I am going to try and bring a few Christian friends along also. Hope to see you!!!!

By: Lafe

Lafe — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:52:36 +0000

CF….
I read your comments and I also hope that you
are exaggerating as to what these itineraries included
for these “big name” speakers.
I can not fathom even remotely this happening
unless of course both the pastor and the people
sponsoring the event are both crooked and evil
and as such, like responds to like.
I agree with Melvin as to the carnality of seeing these
conventions tagged with the supernatural or the
extra-ordinary is promised.
These are just fleshly hooks to get gullible people to
pay the entry fee into the circus.
What times we are living in!

By: mrs. maverick

mrs. maverick — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 21:33:58 +0000

i’m gonna try and make my way there. it’s just a hop, skip, and a jump across the bridge from me. i’ll have bells and whistles on.

By: CF

CF — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:01:11 +0000

Amen, saint james. Our pastor had started a conference in our city once yearly to try and promote a more wholesome spiritual conference for the people. He would contact other pastor friends of his here and even in other states to come and do these revivals in hopes of reaching the people and opening their eyes to more spirituality and less give me something gospel. Needless to say we have been doing it for about 5 or 6 years but this year we did not. He said that the fees they had began to charge were so grossly outrageous that the church just could not afford to advance that much money for the 5 nights we would host the events. Then to add insult to injury, many of them wanted their commissions up front, plane fare, hotel accomadations, and cars waiting for them when they arrived. If an offering was raised they also wanted 50% of that. We are not even speaking of the big wheels. We are just dealing with some of the pastors that he fellowships from time to time out of state. It was pitiful that it had to come to this. He was really upset about it because we had started looking forward to the conferences every year, but he says it is a sign of the times.

By: saint james

saint james — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:17:29 +0000

CF, I hope your comments are greatly exaggerated. I fear they are not. About 12 years ago I had the misfortune to see the riders for contacted gospel “artists”. A rider is the detaled info required for the musician/singer(s). It made me so angry to see what these fame lusting phonies needed to come sing for you (certainly not for Jesus!). As a gospel singer who has often paid my own way for the opportunity to be a blessing to the LORD’s people I didn’t want to be associated with that mess. I now only sing in churches, hospitals and nursing homes at sick and death beds and I love it.
My wife was once interested in bringing a very famous female, TV minister to Boston. This was about 16 years ago. We recieved her request for a contract in the mail. The required info was how many attended the morning service, the evening service, midweek, etc., WHY? I guess so they could have a good idea of how many fleeced sheep there would be after their departure. We tore it up and threw it in the trash. Can you imagine Paul, the apostle sending his contract and rider to the Macedonian church. “Come on over and help us!” Uhhuh, as soon as you return the contract. I’ve also been a guest at conferences/convocations where the big name people get extra attention, ammenities ans better accomodations. It is really twisted. These fakers need to read the epistle of James. My eyes were also wide open after several of those experiences. May the LORD bring humility and purity to His church.

By: phillyflash

phillyflash — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:28:00 +0000

Yea, the Orthodox Church keeps a tight reign. Scientology tried to comein here a few years ago but got ran out.

There was a problem with the site but I think it’s fixed. Thanks for trying to stop by though.

Did you learn any greek while you were here? When I first came over here, I tried using my seminary learned Khoine Greek. Didn’t work lol! I’m much better now though!

By: Melvin Jones

Melvin Jones — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:53:06 +0000

Man! I knew the Greeks were a tight-fisted bunch. I lived there for a little over a year back in the seventies. They actually seem to present a really good reason to keep Government from promoting any particular religion.

By the way, I tried to visit your site a couple of days ago. What happened?

By: Melvin Jones

Melvin Jones — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:48:25 +0000

I believe he is the same fellow. After all, how many Saiko’s can there be in Texas?

By: CF

CF — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 08:48:19 +0000

Talk about conferences. You definitely are right. Some are all about one thing “gimme a dollar please”, and the word of God is nowhere to be found.
I know quite a few preachers that schooled me on a lot of these big time conferences. One told me that they will fly you in if you are a big time guest. Before you get there they get your itinerary and what you will need during your stay. They have the gall to ask you will you need hookers, drugs, little boys, little girls, or whatever floats your boat. Another told me that he always prays and fasts before he goes if he is invited. If the Lord says yes he will go, but he says a lot of times the Holy Ghost warns him before going on what to do and not to do. Sometimes not to go out with them to eat or to just stay in his room. He also said sometimes he can’t even take anything from them, not plane fare or even room expenses. He will go, give them the word God gave him and is outta there just like the Lord told him. One pastor told me that it has gotten so bad that if the Lord tells him to go, he always takes his wife with him. He makes sure that whatever hotel he stays in that they do not use his name at the desk. He says that these people will send “Welcoming Commitees” to your room so you have to be very careful, prayed up, and make sure it is God’s will for you to take a lot of these engagements or you can be mislead.
I thought this stuff was only in the movies but speaking with these gentlemen on a one on one basis really opened my eyes to a lot of this greedy heresy. it would be so refreshing to go to a conference and just hear the true gospel preached and not be bombarded with all this prosperity can you spare a dime garbage.

By: phillyflash

phillyflash — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 07:29:28 +0000

Hi Melvin,

I wish I could attend but living in Greece makes it difficut to say the least. I will be praying for all to go well!

I’ve been praying regarding holding a similar conference here in Europe. The UK is flooded with pimps and other countries are following suit. I doubt that Greece will have these problems because the pimps have to get permission from the church to speak or hold a meeting. They are so tight over here that I had to get permission to start my blog due to the content matter!

Keep on keeping on my brother. I will try and post a bit more often over here now that things are slowing down a bit at the tennis club.

Stay blessed and Refomed!!

Phil

By: Charismania

Charismania — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:56:16 +0000

Here’s one that bothers me too. This link to a company called “Wealth Accelerator” features at the very top of the “bio” page a fellow from Denver. It tells how he “travels the globe teaching people the principles of how to become independently wealthy”, etc. and how their son and daughter “work alongside” them. Nowhere in that bio does it say anything about him being a PASTOR. Is it just me or is this completely messed up?

Here’s the link:

Wealth Accelerator

and here’s the church:

Trinity Christian Center

MN: Notice the list of names you can get 20th anniversary video postcards from. That pretty much says it all. )