Peace and Blessings
Angela

Juanita Bynum news interview.

But just wanted to add my 2cents when and where I can. So again be encouraged!!!!

Man, Wish you could stay, for it’s already feeling a bit less bright without ya, Sis. Then again, “there’s a time for everything”…… (Ecclesiastes 3:1)

Enjoy the new season Gods’ given you (and prayerfully it’ll be brief, lol lol). Much love…& thanks for always having my back, Sis. PEACE.

Angela, my wife is from Brooklyn.

All the best with the homeschool. BTW who is going to enjoy my humour now? No fair.

May our God bless your hands, Sister!

Kyle

WHERE MY EMAIL AT, GURL?!!!! (lol, lol, lol) Seriously, just wondering if you forgot or have simply been too busy……

Fair enough, Brah……. though please know that I was never trying to ACCUSE you of anything or MAKE YOU IMPLY ANYTHING you didn’t mean. Just trying to make sure I heard you right, Brah.

Thanks for clarifying, though

However, in this discussion, you are trying to make me say that I will discount everything (that I can only learn from those holding the same interpretations as you) another says simply because we disagree on specific issues. I’m not saying that.

I am, however, saying that I am not going to look to one who holds a Pentecostal view for on anything approaching a regular basis. Why should I? I have said often that I don’t hold to the “get rid of the gristle and keep the meat” philosophy of being taught (the gristle being teachings against the basics of Christianity. And teaching that there is ongoing revelation is against the basics of Christianity.

Please stop trying to make me imply things I am not implying. I believe I have fairly clearly stated that I would not recommend an SG site, not when there are such places as Monergism.com. I would not recommend that a person attend an SG church, not when there are other churches around.

Is an SG church the equivalent of a subsidiary of Creflo Dollar’s church? No (even though you keep trying to accuse me of saying that). But I am saying that it is one end of a spectrum of Pentecostal behavior and doctrine. Like Calvary Chapel, they insist on the absolute authority of Scripture while promoting doctrines that deny it.

Sharing ideas does not automatically give us a FULLER UNDERSTANDING of what the BIBLE TEACHES. Studying the Bible and depending on God for illumination does that, Word of Wisdom, Word of Knowledge, or Prophecy as the Pentecostals define them, not withstanding.

Again, I am not saying “disregard everything SG teaches. ” I am, however, saying that you should not expect me to recommend an SG church or an SG site for information.

To clarify,

Are you basically saying YOUR theological viewpoints (or those whom agree with you) are the ONLY WORTHWILE & ACCURATE ones—–? & that you can only learn from those holding the same interpretations as you?

Moreover, you’re implying disregard EVERYTHING SG teaches, even when it affirms SOUND GODLY PRINCIPLES or the CENTRALITY OF CHRIST? Or that it’s wrong to recommend ANY RESOURCES by SG, even when agreeing with your viewpoints?

Also, do you believe that through the sharing of ideas we can come to a FULLER UNDERSTANDING of what the BIBLE TEACHES?

IMO, IC/Bro Lawerence D & Kyle would be the best choice……& perhaps even Sis MAV, if she’s ferocious enough (Lol)

Sorry, but The activities are not THE SOURCE FOR PIMPS THRIVING. Obviously, Pimps use them……but since when did that make the activities bad in/of
themselves?

Is Money INHERENTLY EVIL Because I encountered a COUNTERFEIT Bill, or
witnessed another person EMBEZZLING IT?

Of course not, and to say promoting it is ALWAYS DANGEROUS DUE TO INSTANCES OF ABUSE/DECEPTION is ILLOGICAL, for THAT’S IGNORING THE FACT THAT THERE’s GOOD TO COME FROM IT WHEN USED PROPERLY……& likewise, the
Abuse of SPIRITUAL GIFTS doesn’t necessitate NEEDING TO AVOID THEM. (MN: However, I would argue that there is no proper use of the gift of Prophecy as the Pentecostals define and practice it. )

As Scripture makes clear, they’re beneficial ONLY WHEN PROPERLY USED TO HELP THE
CHURCH (I Corinthians 12-14)……which Sovereign Grace does CONSISTENTLY to my knowledge.

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Also, PIMPS THRIVED EVEN WHEN THESE ACTIVITIES were NON=EXISTENT. Consider the time before the REFORMATION, where PIMPS IN THE CATHOLIC AREANA STILL thrived by manipulating other legitimate things we have no problem with, such as the Concept of Tradition in Scripture ( http://www.carm.org/catholic/tradition.htm ).

Pimps don’t thrive because of GOD’S GIFTS, but because of DECEPTION (Matthew 24:9-14), PEOPLE NOT DESIRING THE TRUTH ( II Thessalonians 2:1-12, I Timothy 4:1-5, II Timothy 3:1-9, II Timothy 4:1-5), & the simple fact that GOD ALLOWS IT IN ORDER TO highlight those who’re TRULY GENUINE BELIEVERS (I Corinthians 11:19). (MN: Who said they thrive because of God’s gifts? I say they thrive because the standards have been erased. Pentecostalism was instrumental in eroding and erasing those standards. )

Bottom line: PIMPS WILL CONTINUE TO thrive REGARDLESS of circumstances till CHRIST RETURNS (Matthew 7:14-20, Revelation 18-22)

(MN: They themselves identify themselves as Pentecostal….)

NOT ALL CHARISMATICS or PENTECOSTALS BELIEVE THE SAME. There are SIGNIFICANT VARIATIONS ( http://www.isitso.org/guide/pentchar.html ,
http://www.mb-soft.com/believe/text/charisma.htm , ), ….& not all practice
spiritual gifts ABUSIVELY AS THE WOF PIMPS do ( http://faith.propadeutic.com/ ). (MN: No one said they did.)

Please don’t generalize, sir.

(MN: Here, let me be specific.

Again, I’ll work with them. But I would not recommend them to anyone. )

Sorry Brah, but I’m gonna have to go with MacArthur on this one. For, he’s still
willing to work with Mahanney/Harris…& he has even recommended their SOLID
Resources….JUST as Piper, RC Sproul & others have MULTIPLE TIMES for YEARS!!!

For evidence,

http://www.t4g.org/speakers.html

http://www.joshharris.com/stop_dating_the_church.php

Reformation 21

http://www.alliancenet.org/partner/Article_Display_Page/0,,PTID307086|CHID559376
|CIID2023144,00.html

IT’S ILLOGICAL CLAIMING ONE CANNOT LEARN FROM OR ASSOCIATE with Believers holding
DIFFERING interpretations ——For what’s ESSENTIAL is THE CENTRALITY OF THE
GOSPEL OF CHRIST….

IMO, SOMETHING’S HIGHLY OFF when we’re willing to DIVIDE OVER NON-ESSENTIAL
issues rather than UNITING FOR THE SAKE OF SPREADING THE GOSPEL…..for not all
Followers will resemble each other or belong to the SAME GROUPS. People who are on Jesus’ side have the SAME GOAL of BUILDING UP THE KINGDOM of GOD, & THEY
SHOULD NOT LET THEIR DIFFERENCES INTERFERE WITH THIS GOAL ( I Corinthians 12,
Ephesians 4:1-16).

If someone shares common faith in Christ, THEY SHOULD be
COOPERATED WITH, as the Word says (Mark 9:38-41)

(MN: I don’t care what John MacArthur does. While I can work with them, I have no intention of recommending them. Their belief in extra-biblical revelation is a non-starter for me. Extrabiblical revelation (i.e. Adam was six feet 5 inches tall, blond and blue-eyed) ends up impacting the essentials sooner or later. Each of us has our set of trip-wires. Extra-biblical revelations is one of mine. I don’t expect you all to have the same ones as me. But neither am I going to change mine based on the reputation of a theologian, no matter how much I admire and respect that theologian. I wanted to be Charles Stanley when I grew up. But I still think he is wrong to promote tithing.

SG’s Pentecostal stand is going to, somewhere down the road, result in them either being forced to reject it, or a turn from orthodoxy in other areas. Their willingness to “waterdown” their previously clear Pentecostal stand is, to me, an indication that they recognize that there is a conflict between what the Bible says and what they do. As more people who reject the pentecostal slant come into the organization, I suspect they will be pressured into dropping it all together. )

And that one came STAIGHT from the pit (lol, lol, lol)…..but please don’t tell me you’ve bought the “Black People ONLY have RHYTHM” lie, Brah. If so, it’s all good, cause NOT ALL BLACKS HAVE IT EITHER (wink)….

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On the other hand the Word of God is replete with instruction and direction regarding the way we ought to live our lives as Christians. Ro 6:12-15, Ga 5:16-26, Eph 4:17-32. And I can go on and on. My point is the focus seems to be on assembling for assembling sake as opposed to assembling to help guide us in our life living. At times there are those who would attempt to make one feel guilty for not assembling. A lot of focus would be placed on the form and not the substance so to speak. Thereby having descended into a form of Godliness some have no purpose for assembling and thus do not truly give heed to what is being fed to them, resulting in accepting whatever is placed before them by apostate preachers and heretical ministers.

Funnily enough it is only very recently (thanks to PP) something registered on my consciousness. Many times we quote 2 Ti 2:15 to remind persons about the fact that they should be delving into the Word of God for themselves but I read some things I have read over and over before but didn’t really pay attention. Many times Christ prefaced what he was saying with “have ye not read” Mt 12:3, 12:5, 19:4, 22:31; Mar 12:10, 12:26. This says to me that it is expected that we should be reading scripture in order that we understand what is expected of us as believers.

Just some of my thoughts.

You answered my question with great specificity (if that us such a word)..LOL

Peace and Blessings
Angela