This unfortunately describes America’s shallow Christianity. I can’t argue with anything listed here and I wish I could. Just sad, sad, sad. You think it would be easy to refute the lies with the Truth but it is not. America is blind to this non sense. I rejoice though, that the Lord has revealed his Truth to us. It is like neo in the Matrix coming into the reality of the state of man.We were enemies of the Cross. Romans 5:8

that’s another classic gem, mel. i hope it hits the web like so many of chain (send this to 7 friends and your break through will come) people! oh yeah tack that on the end and let’s see if it makes it to TBN. maybe it will make it to the top of the prayer alter or get printed on one of the so called prophets prayer napkins.
keep the light shinnin ya’ll, and God Bless!

I’m a youth pastor and I love this list. Keep up the good work and keep speaking the truth. So many pastors have forgotten what the title pastor means…”Servant” These pulpit pimps aren’t serving anyone but themselves

Well this is very sad, that I could identify with most of the points on the list with my ex-pastors. Very frightening, and im from the uk. I will admit what I see in America is worst than the uk, however we are always right behind you guys. nowadays only a few months. we got the “teach me how to love you conference2 obver here not (february gone) by bindem and weeks. God help us. I guess the uk is a good target, I mean you can do well with your offerings, since the 1 £1 = $2 at the moment!

You might wish to add “If your pastor insists on managing the Church/family of God, yet cannot manage his own household and hides from/ignores the needs of his family, that man’s a pimp……(I Timothy 3:4-5)

This one regarding family’s a particularly strong point of…..anger….. For me right now (for I come from a household where the father in the family fled, was absent, and I’m meeting him in 2 weeks for the 1st time), and is something that I think we should all be HIGHLY CAUTIOUS of…..for the Bible makes EXPLICITLY clear that Spiritual leadership must begins/ends at HOME….

One not willing to care for, discipline, and teach his own children doesn’t qualify to teach/lead in the church.

Though the “list” contains obvious signs of things often becoming of a “Pimp”, I think the family one often passes by unnoticed…..and it’s possible to have none of the things on the “list” present in our lives and yet still be considered a wolf/”pimp”–”Preying” upon our loved ones by neglecting their welfare/seeking our own satisfaction 1st, all in the name of “Ministry”/ “Serving” rather than “Protecting” their interests in Christ……..

But that’s just my take on it. Later…. ……

(MN: People GENERALLY can’t see what’s going on in a family. Besides, mistreating your family doesn’t make you a pimp. Just like bad doctrine doesn’t automatically qualify you for pimphood.

Besides, that’s exactly what we are looking at - the OBVIOUS signs. Don’t take this whole thing too seriously. )

You know you’re being pimped while as a teenager, if your pastor wants you to pay 10% of your allowance to the church.

Here are some other signs:

If your pastor uses the phrases; “Next Level”, “New Anointing”, “Breakthrough”, or calls themselves, Prophet, Apostle or any combination of the two. You may be (probably are) getting pimped.

You know… I have seen “little church pimps” place huge monetary goals on the sheep so the “little pimps” can start “big pimping”. That is how they get their start right?

They emphasize raising $$$Hundreds of thousands$$$
of $$$dollars$$$ in mere months. They are not shy about letting you know the status of their goals ($$$).

They get the congregation toghether and tell them “We plan to raise $$$,$$$ by the end of the year. Which may be difficult for some store front churches. But if Todd Hall prophesies to them, you had better believe that the snow-ball doesnt stop with the church leaders, it lands in the lap of the congregation.

I wonder just how many leaders heard the “prophesy” of Todd Hall and responded by putting burdensome goals on their congregations in an attempt to be “obedient” to the puppeteers word.

But where are the goals to memorize Scripture? Where are the goals that say:

Were going to read 1John everyday for 30-days and by then we should have 1john memorized This will help us to grow closer to God’s Word. Then were going to read Chapters 1-7 of Matthew every day for 30 days. Then Chapters 7-14 and so on.

Where are these goals? Which should be emphasized the most?

Some of these ministries may have goals to cultivate the Scriptures in the sheep’s lives, but many overshadow these goals with goals of lavish living, fund-raising, destiny-pursuing, and glory-seeking.

The goals are hardly to revolve around the Scriptures. The goal is to get whatever they can get their hands on while attempting to legitimize the self-glorifying goals by using Scripture or worse, “Chirstian one-liners” as the “battle-cry” to get the job done. i.e. They’re busy taking back what the devil stole from them, calling forth their blessings, forsaking medical advice for the advice of neighborhood prophets.

So if your church leadership emphasizes any goal more than “THE GOAL” of becoming the church that Jesus became a man for, and willingly gave His very life for…..

You might be getting lied to, pimped, and prostiuted.

But, without Christ we would be in the same condition!!!

If you try to defend your pastors(wolves) 5 luxury cars and mansion based off of, “the blessing flows from the head first and body second.”
If you are in leadership in the church and the pastor comes to you and says,”You were short in your tithes this month, What’s UP?”

If your first lady gives her gift registry to ministry heads for her birthday…..you might be gettin’ pimped.

If your pastor leases a new car every two years “because [he] feels like it” and so does his wife….you might be getting pimped.

If your pastor purchases a half-million dollar home, gets a six figure income from the church, and STILL gets a $3000 to $4000 a month “living expenses” stipend from the church….you MIGHT be getting pimped.

If your Pastor’s wife is referred to “Lady Something or Other “and she has a crew of women who cater to her every need…..

If your pastor’s children are allowed to “glean” from the change in the offeratory (True Story)…

If your pastor’s robes look more like fashion statements than vestments…

If the church is being set up to be in the hands of the wife and children of the pastor on the sweat, sacrifice, service , ministry and “Tithes” of the people…..

If the preacher needs an adjutant to wipe the sweat from his brow when he preaches…

Or your minister’s wife (like Juanita Bynum) has 2 women following her like pit bulls as she “ministers” through the congregation…

If the pastor says God called him into full time ministry and the people are in full time stress trying to support his family and he……

If the preacher teaches new catch phrases to the saint evey three months to keep them blindly focused on his ego-driven agenda…. (gasp) oops, I am feeling sick, I goota go, I need to vomit…

#10 is so true…

YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SITE DOWN,

If the Holy Spirit is being held back from pouring out His ah-NOIN-tin’ because you haven’t given your “seed”…

If the hedge surrounding your pastor’s yard is carved and shaped to look like a brick wall (a BAPTIST pastor here in Knoxville. I kid you not.)

As many of us can recall, the days of the pulpit pimps is nothing new under the sun. It goes as far back as Reverend Ike and further more since the apostles. I recall when in the 80’s when my father would get mailings from Reverend Ike asking for donations but now you don’t hear too much about him anymore. He was the epitome of a pulpit pimp and there was no shame in his game. If we would just heed to the word of God regarding false prophets, then we can smell them coming and not heed to false doctrine.

i attend agape (hornbuckles) and i must say that i am fed there spiritually. why do you guys still talk about terry hornbuckle? he is in jail and it has almost been a year. people have moved on. i can’t speak for anyone else but i stayed because i don’t worship a man or a woman, i worship jesus and when god tells me that it’s time to go elsewhere then i will go. most of the people that left they did it because people made fun of them and talked them out. most of them verbally stated that they want to come back but they are afraid of what people will say. so are you saying that those of us that stayed are crazy?

to black theologian

i haven’t defended mr. hornbuckle, and i didn’t say that i felt that i needed to stay there. i said that i will leave when god tells me that it is my time to go. (MN: And until God magically says you need to go [however he will make that FEELING apparent to you], you NEED to stay there. Otherwise you would FEEL as if you are being disobedient to God. ) i believe that people leave church on their own without consulting god and i believe that they should but until he tells me i will stay there. again i say, i don’t worship a man or a woman i go to hear the word. i feel that whatever people are struggling with god will deal with it. i pray for people not look down my nose at them. to my knowlegde pastor renee hornbuckle is a woman of god and i don’t see her as a person that is full of herself. (MN: However, she is full enough of herself to go against the Bible when it says that women are not to be pastors. Interesting. )

it seems to me that this website is saying that there are no true women and men of god. (MN: Here, let me be more specific. Any Christian faithful to Christ is a man or woman of God. There is not some special mantle, with a big red MOG emblem on it, given to someone to identify him as a Man of God. Do a search in the New Testament and see how many times that phrase appears. Look at who the term is applied to in the Old Testament and tell me how many men it applied to, as used in the Old Testament. )

i haven’t heard one positive word about preachers that do the real work of the lord.

(MN: And doubtless the police have not been called out to a house where the husband and wife get along. The site is not here to let you know about pastors who are doing their jobs. It’s to warn you about the wolves. If you want to tell people about the pastors who are doing their jobs, get off your butt, shell out a couple of bucks, and start a site called http://www.pastorsdotheirjobs.com. You can even write out prayers for people to read when they come to your site. Once you do that, after I check out each preacher you recommend, I will send people to your site so they can see pastors who are doing their job. Until then, you don’t have jack to say about the coverage, balance, or anything else on this site. You don’t get to tell me what I ought to do until you do something besides sitting there showing your lack of understanding. )

i do agree that there are some preachers who have gotten away from the true gospel but i pray for them because god can do a better job of dealing with them than i can. since you feel that i should not stay there, where are the perfect churches that i should attend? and where do you attend church? it everyone there saved, sanctified, and without fault at all times? (MN: Yeah, and I pray for child molesters rather than call the cops on them because God can do a better job of dealing with them than I can. )

i am not taking up for anyone but i am trying to understand what is your point in being critical of others?

to mn, it seems that you are showing alot of unnecessary anger. i did not say what you can and cannot do, i don’t even have that kind of authority. i am just saying that it seems that you are not finding anything positive to say about those that really are walking upright but you are right this is a website about wolves in sheep’s clothing, and i would call the cops if i saw someone being molested, i never said that. what i am saying is that i don’t spend alot of time dwelling on what happened. i don’t approve of it at all but what i am saying is that i will pray for others that may be struggling or have even turned and walked away from god. i hope that someone would do the same for me, even though i wouldn’t expect them to up hold me in my wrongdoing but they shouldn’t hate me or not forgive me.hate the sin not the person.

(MN: I don’t publicize the positive because that is not the purpose of this site. Again, if you want to publicize the positive get off your butt, come up off some cash, and do it. It only costs me around $88/month and more time than I have. Also, again, this site is to warn. You don’t warn once and then be silent. You warn over and over again. New Christians need to be warned. Christians who are beginning to doubt their association with the pimps need to be warned. Family of the pimped need information to work with and a place to point to. Heck, people who just learned to read need to be warned. The warning never stops. After all, the pimps never rest. They are always out looking for a free dollar. And new ones show up every week.

It’s really interesting to watch the progression of the thoughts of those who object in some way or another to the site. )

again, you are being defensive. you are saying get off my butt like i am lazy or something. this is not even called for but alot of times we talk about everyone else and then when someone gets in our face we get mad.and you are so holy and pure. yeah right. i see that you need deliverance from anger but you won’t be so quick to talk on that, only on what others are doing wrong.

(MN: Not being defensive. Simply insisting that you put your money where your mouth is. You have a right to say I’m not doing it correctly. I have the right to tell you to do it the way you think I should be doing it. How is that being defensive?

Can you help a brother out here? )

your comments just came across as being mean which i didn’t see it as being necessary. i didn’t think that i came across as being angry but if i did i apologize. i don’t have the authority to make you put whatever i want you to put into your website. it’s just that i came from the old school and if a person was in sin whether they were a member or in leadership(pastor,evangelist,etc) yes they would be given a good lecture and made to sit down for a season. i have never experienced this before with a pastor being on the news because of their sin nor have i never experienced any websites that discussed these things. now don’t get me wrong, this is not the first time that something like this has happened but it was handled differently. i come from cogic background which those that are familiar with it knows how strict they are (no pants for women or makeup, no movies, etc) i have seen people that talked about hornbuckle and they were doing the same thing or had a spouse that was into the same thing.no i don’t have any websites, but if i did i would talk about those that are preaching the word of god and living by it , and i would pray for those that are not doing what they should be doing even though i know that god will have to deal with them in his own way,but i would pray that they would repent and return back to him.

My daughter had recently asked me why when it’s time to collect the tithes and offerings in her church, the minister there pulls out a wad full of cash and drops it in the plate. This is my sister’s church and I have met their minister a several times. He seems nice and we went out bowling with him one day. Truthfully, and I must be honest, the substance of his preaching is questionable and making the church pay for usher uniforms and other things my daughter says is questionable as well. They are faithful tithers but yet when my daughter needed a sponsor for a beauty pageant she wanted to participate in, no response and no sponsors. I was informed that he owns two houses, one in each state. They’ve attended this church for five years and I haven’t said a word about what I think. I don’t know what to say to my daughter. Any comments or suggestions?

To Keith Tolbert:

Thank you and may God help us.