It would seem I have become a victim of my own “success,” so to speak. When I started this site, I could count on three maybe six visits during the week. And if someone left a message, it was to assure me that I needed a life, was jealous, or needed counseling very badly.
Along the way , some of you may remember the crash about six months ago , I had to upgrade the server and memory to take the growth into account. Traffic to the site had grown - a lot. My vastly over-priced web master worked the issue, upped my capacity and we proceeded to address the issue of pulpit pimps.
Several weeks ago, the server crashed again , too much traffic. My VOPWM had to upgrade the server and memory again. And that brings me to something I’m not terribly comfortable with: a request for support.
My server now costs $168 per month to maintain.
If any of you want to contribute to the maintenance of the site, send me an e-mail and I will give you information for accessing my PayPal account.
Other than being able to read my sterling prose and to hear from people like Beryle the Pearl, Gary V, Rev_AK and their like, and a host of entertaining (if somewhat depressing WoF defenders), there aren’t any great blessings or breakthroughs in store for you if you contribute. I’m not going to send you an autographed photo of Jesus or a Bible autographed by Paul of Tarsus.
You won’t have your prayers answered, and God won’t miraculously pay off that car you were silly enough to buy when you knew perfectly well you couldn’t afford it.
If you want, I can prophesy some inncuous blessing into your life, but you’ll have to sign a waiver stating that you won’t sue me if it doesn’t come to pass.
Oh, and I’m not tax deductible.
In fact, the only thing that will happen is you will make my life a little easier. But as the site’s benevolent dictator, what I blog about won’t be influenced by your contributions.
I doubt that I’ll drop from the ‘net if no one contributes. Probably the worst that could happen is my flying will have to be curtailed to support the site. But given the rash of General Aviation accidents over the last couple of weeks (the one in New York City and just outside Ft. Meade MD), that might not be such a bad thing.
Again, if you want to contribute, send me an e-mail. You know the address.
I guess I’ll leave this posting open for comments. But I warn you, if I get a bunch of the WoF doofusses (sp?) nattering on about pimping people, I’ll start promising you all kinds of blessing, riches, miracle spring water, and a cross carved from stone cut from Golgotha.
Oh, and if you do contribute, I will send you a PDF of the monthly bill, the record of deposits to PayPal (a print out of my account page) so you can see how much has been contributed, and a record of my payment to the server company. That’s about the best I can do for transparency.
If any of you respond, I may get a PayPal button installed on the site to make it a little more convenient. But I would continue my effort at transparency, e-mailing the aforementioned information to you each month.
Pray about it and listen to that small, still voice saying “SUPPORT MELVIN!!!” and do what it says.
Because of your up-front integrity, please view my e-mail to you. AGAPE!
TO ALL SINCERE “DOERS” OF THE WORD:
Want to be obedient to Jesus’ commandment in Matthew 28:18-20? And you don’t have to have a pulpit to do it! I’ll address the issue of baptizing a convert at the end of this blog.
Since I’m a BBBBHGFCOG (Blood-bought, Bible-believing, Holy Ghost-filled, Child of God, (for you “newbies”)), as well as a Proverbs 31:10-31 Woman, I looked in my house for ways to magnify the Lord besides keeping my mouth filled with praise and placing Scripture once/month on my answering service among other things. The Greater One in me gave this almost three years ago and I’m passing it on to you.
All of you receive “junk mail” with a metered-mail return envelope enclosed for your responses. Metered-Mail envelopes display a “Business Reply Mail” rectangle box with a 1st class mail notation, permit number, and the city/state inside the box. Underneath the rectangle in small print is: “Postage Will Be Paid by Addressee.” Where you’d ordinarily place a stamp is a stamp-sized box with the message inside: “No Postage Necessary if Mailed in the United States.” OK? So this won’t cost you anything but a little QUALITY time on your computer and occasional trips to the post office.
Now please, you Einsteins out there, DO NOT reply with a pathetic, sarcastic comment about “everybody ought to know what a….” Well, not everybody necessarily knows, like you don’t know to keep your caustic-quest-for-recognition-of-a-tongue inside your head (1 Thessalonians 4:11). Now back to the Great Commission.
Begin to save these metered-mail envelopes until you have EXPERIENCED the sincere milk of The Word and the meat of The Word. Initially, you may have to seek the Lord’s guidance as to which utterances from His mouth you are to share IF YOU HAVE NOT WRITTEN DOWN REVELATIONS AND INSIGHTS over time as you’ve sat at His feet. In other words, He has indeed written His word on the tablets of your heart, it’s time you shared them! SHARE THE SCRIPTURES THAT YOU HAVE COME TO PRACTICE AND LOVE because Jesus and His gospel are inseparable (see Mark 8:35 & 10:29-30).
Get on your computer, open your Bible AND your notes; He will give you a title for what you are to share. (For instance: “Truths About Jesus,” “Integrity,” “Salvation,” “Receiving Your Healing,” are some of my titles.) DO NOT EXPOUND ON YOUR INTERPRETATION, OPINION, “PROFOUND KNOWLEDGE,” OR EXPERIENCES! ! ! ! ! ! ! The immutable Word of God alone (1) is able to save to the uttermost, (2) performs its work in you who believe, and (3) it is constantly bearing fruit and increasing. Look at what it’s doing in and for you and meï?Š. Fill a page with just the Word; WRITE OUT EACH SCRIPTURE VERSE IN ITS ENTIRETY and double space between verses to make it easy on the eyes the recipient. Place an attractive border around the finished page, print several copies, enclose one page inside that metered-mail envelope you’ve saved and drop it at your nearest post office! One page is enough– two is the maximum! If you receive an envelope that DOES require a stamp, stamp it and mail it anywayï?Š. It cost Jesus a w-h-o-l-e lot more than 39¢!
You are now an official member of “The Sower Sows the Word” Club and a TRUE Disciple of Christ according to the progressively conditional word of John 8:31-32– meditate on these two verses!
BAPTIZING — Now, you don’t have to have a pool; if a convert wishes, you could use your swimming pool, your hot tub, or your bath tub (first, sanitize itï?Š). These are just observations; I am held harmless for any mishaps! GREAT IS THE LORD AND GREATLY TO BE PRAISED! ! ! HIS GREATNESS IS UNSEARCHABLE! ! ! !
hi beryl, good suggestion. but to not do it would not make anyone less of a true disciple. also, because i doubt that you realize this about yourself, i suggest that you revisit Matt. 7:2-3 , and Titus 2:8 as pertaining to your comment in paragraph 4 above. and rest assured, i am likewise revisiting it myself. peace.
To Beryle the pearl not to sure how to take your comment’s, the
WRITE OUT EACH SCRIPTURE VERSE IN ITS ENTIRETY
Thing, think about this BTP, the blessing in Christ that
You must share is LOVE, hitting an unbeliever upside the
Head with the word of GOD which the word tells us that
They can’t understand it with out the spirit of GOD anyway is
Hopeless. How does the unbeliever know that
You’re a child of God anyway, is it your knowledge
Of Scripture, your need to quote them at every opportunity,
Telling anyone who would listen that you’re a
BBBBHGFCOG (Blood-bought, Bible-believing, Holy Ghost-filled, Child of God,
O, yah Church or the way you dress this sound’s a bit puffy, try this approach, let me explain.
Jesus said that the “world will know you by your love of one another”, it’s Love, the love of
One another that shows your brother or sister in Christ that reveals the spirit of God, this
Draws the unbeliever to the Christ is you, now since you cant love a stranger by mail. Seems
A bit presumptuous to think that just because you’re doing that the rests is up to
God, look even a blind swirl will find a nut every now and then, BTP be effective, a Strong Christian nation
Is what’s needed today? You must learn to die to a brother or sister in Christ and your relationship grows
You will come to be called a friend, what does Christ call his disciples, Friend, how many Friends do you have BTP. Train up a child, young believers need the truth BTP, you must become
SCRIPTURE to them, be humble, die BTP, come to call them Friend, then and only then
Will the spirit of God be revealed as the spirit of Christ? To this world
Love
Hi Michael………your reply to Beryle is a bit confusing.
“Thing, think about this BTP, the blessing in Christ that
You must share is LOVE, hitting an unbeliever upside the
Head with the word of GOD which the word tells us that
They can’t understand it with out the spirit of GOD anyway is
Hopeless.”
Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
In fact…………I cannot find any instance in the entire Bible where we are told to evangelize by love……….only by the Word. The Bible.
The verse you used is Christ describing how the world would recognize believers……….it is not a recipe of how to MAKE believers. You have taken it out of its context.
Jud 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, (again……talking about believer/believer relationships. He’s writing to the church here) looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Jud 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
Jud 1:23 And others save with fear, pulling [them] out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
Some are reached by compassion. Not referencing OUR compassion, but the compassion God has wrought in Christ toward us……..and how do they know that there is compassion for them?? It is written.
Some save by fear………fear of what?? Judgement to come, of course. And how do we know of the coming judgement?? The Word of course.
The Word is indeed foolishness TO THE PERISHING. Until the Word by the election of God impacts the heart of the sinner. How will that occur without the Word being spread?? The Word is the ONLY means of salvation……..
Again…….please find a Scripture that supports your view of how God works in the heart of the unregenerate, because the one you referenced does not.
You said……..
“O, yah Church or the way you dress this sound’s a bit puffy, try this approach, let me explain.
Jesus said that the “world will know you by your love of one another”, it’s Love, the love of
One another that shows your brother or sister in Christ that reveals the spirit of God, this
Draws the unbeliever to the Christ is you, now since you cant love a stranger by mail. Seems
A bit presumptuous to think that just because you’re doing that the rests is up to
God,”.
I hardly know where to start……….you make the assumption that Jesus is telling us how to evangelize by telling believers to love one another, but that is clearly not the case. You cannot mangle that verse enough to make it say that Christ was talking about methods of reaching the lost.
And since we can’t love by mail (Why not……..what’s more loving than sending the Words that save to sinners??) should we stop smuggling the Bible into China?? Or Iran?? After all, according to you, that’s not going to work. We just need to go there and love other believers, and it’s all good. Why are we spending so much, and why are so many risking so much, to get Bibles into the these lands??
How did you enter the Family of God unless by believing what the Word said about your lost state,and need of repentance??? And was this YOUR doing, or did God open your eyes through the Word??
If we came in any other way, we never came in at all.
Your final comment on how presumptuous it is to believe that the Word can go forth and bear fruit, and that we can believe in God to accomplish through that Word exactly what He has ordained the Word to accomplish, is a pretty staggering statement.
My brother, I might suggest to you that it is mind-bogglingly presumptuous to believe otherwise.
You could not even eventuate your OWN salvation friend, much less anyone elses.
Our part is to put forth the Words of Life……..God’s part is to do the work only He can do through that Word.
Draw the unbeliever. Make that Word open their eyes to their lost state and bring them to repentance. Bring the lost to salvation in Christ.
That is ALL of God.And He has decreed that His work would be accomplished through the Word.
If it depended upon us………on our deeds, or how well we loved, or whether we could sway them by our actions……..all is lost.
Our only part in this drama is to get the Word God works through into the hands of as many as we can. That is the honor He has given us, to be His fellow laborers in the harvest through the means of the Word.
All else is folly.
reply to Anonymous to follow,
Tks
Reply to Anonymous
First, I agree with you, on all points. I must admit I got a bit
Turned around, my apologizes. The point I was trying to make was
That BTP believed that God had in private given her something to do.
I don’t believe or at lest BTP didn’t state
that it was to be given to the body. BTP’s tone was a bit strong,
The Bold caps were just not necessary. The implications made that by
Doing it BTP’s way you were now a “TRUE Disciple of Christ” is out of line,
And I believe not even biblically sound.
Now to your points, you’re correct faith does come by hearing, (not by just reading)
But how are we to understand this word? By expounding (to explain by setting forth
in careful and often elaborate detail ) the word.
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom
of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Also “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture,
And preached unto him Jesus.” See Acts 8:26-39
Have you anywhere read anyone by chance finding the word, and understanding it?
Sowing the word should not be a random and careless tossing of the word, which is not the spirit
of sowing. Christ spoke to people the apostle’s spoke to people. We haven’t
Learned thee aforementioned art of communication nor do we have the ability
To expound on the word, we believe that that’s the work of the Building (what some call the church) so we hand out tracts, mail a letters Or what ever we can do so long as we can say I evangelized today, it make’s the flesh feel good. Remember Jesus touched (spoke) and healed, What does the word evangelize Mean? It means to preach the gospel, preach Means to deliver (as a sermon) publicly, Remember preach means to deliver the word, teach means that we conduct instruction regularly. What would be the outcome of this form of evangelizing. The outcome is we’re now in compliance with Christ (the word) and have made Disciples of men, not weak believers tossed back and forth, but strong believers that Can expound on the word and set forth to do the same, this is what we were commanded to do. This biblical form of evangelizing is fueled by Love, our salvation fueled by love, Anonymous, its all fueled by LOVE with out love it would be impossible to move his word forward. “If you Love me do as I say” Jesus Christ
P.S sorry Die BTP is meant to mean, Die to self.
Much Love
DEAR MR. SAMUELS:
The sure foundation of God’s Word will address each of your recent posts because I am warned by Him to not lean to my own understanding, so here goes: Psalm 111:10, “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; a good understanding have all those who do His commandments; His praise endures forever,” and Proverbs 4:7, “The beginning of wisdom is: ‘Acquire wisdom; and with all your acquiring, get understanding.’”
YOU SAID: “The point I was trying to make was that BTP believed that God had in private given her something to do. I don’t believe or at lest BTP didn’t state that it was to be given to the body. BTP’s tone was a bit strong.” For sake of time, this last line—your opinion—is rightfully what you are entitled to—your opinion. You are also entitled to your opinion: “Die BTP; Die to self.”
Yes, God usually speaks to me privately (1) because He is my Omniscient Father and His relationship with me and mine with Him is indeed unique (as is yours & His); (2) like David, He knows my thoughts from afar (Psalm 139:2); and (3) He oftentimes wakes me up to pray. On three different occasions, the lives of all three of my children were spared (they lived in three different areas of the United States), and I did have any prior details. I just had an unction out of my belly to pray! Yes, “God has in private given me something to do”—sometimes for others, sometimes for myself—like repenting of a sin; i.e., disobeying His Word. However, time nor space permit me to share the innumerable times “God has in private given me something to do.”
My Response to you, Mr. Samuels, is the very same response Jesus gave to Peter in John 21:20–22 (please read). In other words, Mr. Samuels, If El Elohé Beryle (the God of Beryle) speaks to me in private, what is that to you? The words that He speaks to you privately or otherwise are no one else’s business, unless He commands you to share; agreed? However, when it comes to extolling and proclaiming His virtues—goodness, love, power, compassion, longsuffering, and His magnificent works, to name a few, I am commanded to not only “give it to the body,” as you stated, but I am to shout it from the housetops according to Jesus’ command in Matthew 10:27.
YOU SAID: “The Bold caps were just not necessary,” (another one of your opinions to which you are rightfully entitled). I am an editor and an author, so I use CAPS (1) as designated by books of the industry to emphasize text where I deem necessary; and (2) the BOLD and italic features are not available for all who post comments. These features appear to be employed by our web host, Brother Melvin Jones at his discretion.
YOU—NOT I—IMPLIED “that by Doing it BTP’s way you were now a “TRUE Disciple of Christ”…. This, your implication, is not only “out of line,” but IF I had made that crystal clear, it would be biblically UNsound. My comment, “Now you are a TRUE DISCIPLE OF CHRIST according to John 8:31-32,” should have been on a line by itself, as it commanded further explanation. I apologize for this oversight. My “tongue-in-cheek” remark about being an official member of “The Sower Sows The Word Club” was being just plain facetious. My exhortation to study verses 31 and 32 were dead serious because they are generally misquoted by Saint and sinner alike. The misquote goes something like this: “The Bible says you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.” You and I know this is a lie because half a truth is also half a lie. The Holy Spirit explained it to me this way, in private, while I was writing my first self-published book, Groupcast, © 1998, “Membership Has its Privileges,” p. 67:
(John 8:31-32) The true Church often misses the main focus of this Scripture. This
promise is not only conditional but it is anchored in the progression of position.
Neither is it reserved for the Jews alone whom Jesus was addressing at the time.
It is to all who believe in Jesus. First, believers in Jesus are expected to abide (continue,
dwell, remain, stand, and tarry) in His word. Second, as the result of doing what
precedes—abiding—they who believe in Jesus are transformed into disciples of His,
not disciples of fleshy man. Third, now that these believers in Jesus are His disciples,
they shall know the truth—His word is truth (John 17:17). Fourth and last, truth—
God’s word, shall make them free. Yes, the word of God that you know, revealed
by the Holy Spirit, understood and rightly divided by you, shall make you free! So
we can safely summarize: (a) nonbelievers are out of the picture altogether; (b)
being a disciple is predicated on abiding in His word, it is a Spiritual law; (c)
transformation into being a disciple brings with it revealed and experiential
knowledge of God’s word; and (d) revelation of and experiencing God’s word
shall make you free—free from this world’s mindset and free from polluted and
defiled religion. You see, the prescribed end of this verse, like so many others in
the Bible, is wholly conditional.
I hope this has answered some of your concerns as you continue to study, embrace, and share the truths found in God’s word. There is much to be learned from all those who name the name of Christ. Thank you for allowing me to share from my heart as I remember that “iron sharpens iron.”
In His Service,
Beryle
P.S. On the contrary, my BBBBHGFCOG was not an announcement to “everybody.” I was just following the funny, speedy, trivial, but workable method of identification when Saints want to speak “saintease” among themselves on this site. This method was in place here l-o-n-g before I even knew about the site. This past summer I used a similar acronym describing myself to another blogger, and Melvin Jones’ response was, “I’m almost afraid to ask; I think the COG is Child of God, but the rest?”
I could hardly type my answer for laughing! Please don’t hesitate to try it sometimes. I bet someone will know what you mean and if they don’t, they may wait ’til someone else asks, or work up the nerve to ask you directly. Have fun—this too, is a God send! ILYWTLOTL!
Hi Michael!!!
You wrote……..
“First, I agree with you, on all points. I must admit I got a bit
Turned around, my apologizes. The point I was trying to make was
That BTP believed that God had in private given her something to do.
I don’t believe or at lest BTP didn’t state
that it was to be given to the body. BTP’s tone was a bit strong,
The Bold caps were just not necessary. The implications made that by
Doing it BTP’s way you were now a “TRUE Disciple of Christ” is out of line,
And I believe not even biblically sound.”
Well brother……..I certainly believe that God does inspire us with ideas. It is incumbent upon us to check those ideas against Scripture. I see no violation of Scripture with her proposal.
Also, I didn’t read her statement as “If you do this you will be a “True Disciple”. Rather, this (the spreading of the Word) is something a “True Disciple” would do.
Better she should address that point, but I’m pretty confident that was her intent.
You said……..
“Now to your points, you’re correct faith does come by hearing, (not by just reading)
Actually, the Strongs here denotes specifically “something more than the mere sense of “hearing” [see (a)]; so with the phrase “the hearing of faith,”.
So the act of physically hearing the Word is not being addressed here, but the “hearing of faith”, which is accomplished by reading as well. The hearing of the ear is not the only kind of hearing the Bible addresses.
So your contention that faith doesn’t come just by reading is controverted by the very proof-text you cite.
You wrote…….
“But how are we to understand this word? By expounding (to explain by setting forth
in careful and often elaborate detail ) the word
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom
of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Also “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture,
And preached unto him Jesus.” See Acts 8:26-39″
I agree that the ideal scenario would be to have a competent, gifted, and spiritually mature believer expound the Word in detail. But if that was the only avenue to faith (if simply reading the simple Gospel with God’s quickening power available through the Word itself was insufficient), where would we be with the pimps, hirelings, and Biblical illiterates infesting the church pulpits today??
Have you anywhere read anyone by chance finding the word, and understanding it?
Yes……….myself for example. I had no one to expound the Word to me. I was raised Catholic, I knew no Christians, knew nothing of TV or radio ministries (thank God)……yet at 8 years old I understood enough of the Bible to reject Catholicism and accept Christ as Savior.
The fact is, this happens untold times each day. Most of the believers in China and elsewhere where the Word is outlawed, do not have an entire New Testament, never mind an entire Bible.They have no church structure as we know it. Yet they come.
I believe where we part ways here is your Arminian bent. You seem to discount the fact that God alone draws…………God alone can open the eyes and hearts……….God alone can grant repentance.
The greatest Bible teacher on the planet draws no one. Only God does so, and that by His election. So, the simple act of sharing a verse, or simply sending a verse, is a valid approach IMO. God is not reliant upon the teaching abilities……….or any other ability…….of men to draw the elect unto Himself.
You wrote…….
Sowing the word should not be a random and careless tossing of the word, which is not the spirit
of sowing.
Let’s remember the parable of the sower………some fell by the wayside. Some fell on stony ground. Some fell among thorns. Some fell upon good ground.
That seems like random tossing of the Word. The sower had no idea what conditions the Word would meet when it hit the ground. 75% of the seed went to waste. Yet the sower isn’t condemned for this act……..he is being obedient.
Let’s remember as well that what seems like “random tossing” of the Word to us, is not so from God’s perspective. He is able to bring those seeds to the ground He desires, though it may seem random to us.
And lest we forget and bring glory to ourselves,
“1Cr 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.”
The sower, the teacher, the expositer………they are NOTHING. Only God gives the increase. He alone draws, lest another seek to share His Glory.
You wrote……..
“Christ spoke to people the apostle’s spoke to people. We haven’t
Learned thee aforementioned art of communication nor do we have the ability
To expound on the word, we believe that that’s the work of the Building (what some call the church) so we hand out tracts, mail a letters Or what ever we can do so long as we can say I evangelized today, it make’s the flesh feel good.”
Now, to say that the sowing of the Word in a seemingly random manner (to the eyes of men) in the sure knowledge that God alone draws men through the Word is an act of the flesh is a bit presumptuous.
Why do you continually assume (unScripturally I believe) that God cannot draw men through the Word alone?? That, in fact, God needs US to draw men………when the Word never even intimates any such thing to my knowledge??
Remember Jesus touched (spoke) and healed, What does the word evangelize Mean? It means to preach the gospel, preach Means to deliver (as a sermon) publicly, Remember preach means to deliver the word, teach means that we conduct instruction regularly. What would be the outcome of this form of evangelizing. The outcome is we’re now in compliance with Christ (the word) and have made Disciples of men, not weak believers tossed back and forth, but strong believers that Can expound on the word and set forth to do the same, this is what we were commanded to do. This biblical form of evangelizing is fueled by Love, our salvation fueled by love, Anonymous, its all fueled by LOVE with out love it would be impossible to move his word forward. “If you Love me do as I say” Jesus Christ
P.S sorry Die BTP is meant to mean, Die to self.
Much Love
Again……….no problem with making disciples. But that is a far cry from making converts………which only God can do.
And converts are made via the Word. Read, or preached, or a verse that God quickens in a little letter.
As I said, I believe we diverge on the question of man’s role in making converts.
I believe he has none………except to publish the Word by which God makes converts.And the Word that God uses to illumine the elect is not diminished in power by sending it anonymously through the mail.
God can, and does, quicken the Word to bring repentance no matter how that Word is transmitted. His hand is not shortened that He cannot save just because the verse was sent via US Mail.
My Response to you, Mr. Samuels, is the very same response Jesus gave to Peter in John 21:20,22 (please read). In other words, Mr. Samuels, If El Elohé Beryle (the God of Beryle) speaks to me in private, what is that to you? The words that He speaks to you privately or otherwise are no one else’s business, unless He commands you to share; agreed? However, when it comes to extolling and proclaiming His virtues–goodness, love, power, compassion, longsuffering, and His magnificent works, to name a few, I am commanded to not only “give it to the body,” as you stated, but I am to shout it from the housetops according to Jesus’ command in Matthew 10:27.
It’s not private once may Public, you put it out their, were you told to???
My Response to you, Mr. Samuels, is the very same response Jesus gave to Peter in John 21:20,22 (please read). In other words, Mr. Samuels, If El Elohé Beryle (the God of Beryle) speaks to me in private, what is that to you? The words that He speaks to you privately or otherwise are no one else’s business, unless He commands you to share; agreed? However, when it comes to extolling and proclaiming His virtues–goodness, love, power, compassion, longsuffering, and His magnificent works, to name a few, I am commanded to not only “give it to the body,” as you stated, but I am to shout it from the housetops according to Jesus’ command in Matthew 10:27
again you made it my business, also
Your out of context BTP, starts at 10:15, you cant just use 10:27. it flows better from 10:15
“G” I never said anything about making converts. Im talking about responsibility of the mature believer to equip the convert. This whole site is about pimping of the believer how do we equip “G” .God draws for sure. once drawn they need to be equipped. or do you need a word fro God to move on it.
Michael………..Beryle was talking about sending out the Word to touch the lost. Not to disciple them, as that would be a ridiculous notion via a verse in the mail.
While the verse she cited mentions disciples, it also mentions baptism……..which of course comes after faith. Which is brought about by God alone…….through His Word……even via the mail.
The fact that she was referencing salvation rather than discipling believers was made apparent by the rest of her post.
You seem to have develpoed an affinity for correcting posters rather than the subjects of this site. Why is that??
GARY, look: “You seem to have developed an affinity for correcting posters rather than the subjects of this site. Why is that??”
I began to notice this trend several months ago. Since Proverbs 17:27 is a favorite verse of these “skilled-in-the-Word correctors,” why do they omit the following instructions?
Proverbs 18:13 - “He who gives an answer before he hears, it is folly and shame to him.”
John 7:51 - “Our Law does not judge a man, unless it first hears from him and knows what he is doing, does it?” (Nicodemus is speaking to the chief Priests and Pharisees—”experts” of the law.)
Interesting Note: This last barrage of fiery darts erupted at the end of October….Not that I’m superstitious or anything—God forbid! ï?Š B
TO ANONYMOUS (Note said: “Comments Won’t Nest Below This Level):
Thank you for having received and shared out of your excellent spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of God and His Word. It is indeed an honor to be a worker together with Him until the earth be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. It is also an honor to be a worker together with you, Melvin, GaryV, Eucatastrophe, Deb, and a host of other vessels of honor unto God.
His love, and mine, Beryle
Hi Beryle and Michael Samuels!!
Just to be clear, I am the “Anonymous” responding to Michael’s post to Beryle. I forgot to log in, so it posted anonymously.
Just wanted to be clear in case our brother Michael wanted to address me.
Glad you’re here Michael!!! I don’t agree with your assessment above, but I look forward to getting to know you!!
GaryV, My Son & Brother: You see, it had to be the Holy Ghost, what with me not knowing the given name of the “anonymous” poster! Melvin is indeed blessed in being surrounded by kings and princes of God Most High. I made a copy of your response that dripped with such sweet fragrance that I know it reached the nostrils of our Father Who, incidentally, had you as His ram in the bush! Thanks again! He is also teaching me to practice a quiet and attentive sprit at appointed times because He is our rereward (He has our back)!
to beryl (the TRUE disciple, SINCERE doer of the word, blood bought, Bible believing, Holy Ghost filled, child of God, AND proverbs 31 woman) who puts scriptures on her answering service once a month-among other things), first off, check out prov. 27:2. Now, where do i begin….. listen, when you’re in you’re private sessions with God, just sitting at His feet, and writing down the “REVELATIONS AND INSIGHTS” that He gives you, try very hard to remember that this is something that He gives to YOU. Therefore, it is something that He wants YOU to do. And it’s just like a pharisee to condemn others while practicing the very thing they condemn. And I’m not calling you a pharisee-but your comments are phariseeish. eg. and I quote” Now please, you Einsteins out there, DO NOT reply with a pathetic, sarcastic comment about “everybody ought to know what a….” Well, not everybody necessarily knows, like you don’t know to keep your caustic-quest-for-recognition-of-a-tongue inside your head (1 Thessalonians 4:11). Now back to the Great Commission” all I can say is Look who’s talking. Also, newsflash, when these folk open up those reply letters and don’t see a check, or credit card, or whatever application filled out, those beautiful Scriptures that you took the time to WRITE OUT IN THEIR ENTIRETY, will be crumpled up and tossed into the garbage. (but since you say God gave this to YOU to do-maybe your letter will ACTUALLY get read and pondered on, ( w/out any preacher around to further explain the Scriptures Acts 8:26-31, 35 Acts: 10, Acts 18:26) bringing a wretched sinner to the revelation of his/her lost condition before a Holy, Righteous, and Just God and will cry out from the depths of their sin sick soul “what must I do to be saved?” OK, then what? Who disciples this ‘new convert’? Please tell me what the next step is to this ingenious way of sowing the word. If this is the method you choose to use, good but to suggest that others follow this example is impractical. I’d rather stick to the Bible’s tried and true method of sowing the seed- GO. as for the comment by anonymous “defending” you -(must be a relative) smuggling Bibles into China and other restricted nations is certainly not this. anonymous is comparing apples and oranges. One last thing, the Only way you or I will 100% know that we are TRUE Disciples ( I must put emphasis on what you chose to emphasize)is when we hear some of the most beautiful words ever spoken Matt:25:21 other than that, we’re all in the same boat- trusting and believing w/out having obtained the promise as of yet. Melvin, I hope you print this post, this is my first time writing although my wife has posted many times. It seems that you and beryl are friends and that’s all well and good, but I hope you are not a respector of persons. Beryl’s comments needed to be addressed. peace PS. I’m a man, and I would not place attractive borders around the Scriptures- too frilly.
HI GLADIATOR! Glad to see that you come to the table equipped to slay giants without finding out whose side they are on. Please read my response to Mr. Samuels when it is posted sometime this evening (hopefully). Good for me, El Elohe Beryle still has my back!
Wow…I really enjoyed this. I have watched for a very long time as well without posting (about 5-7 months).
There is a means to ministry, talking about people (name calling that is, no disagreement with rebuke) just won’t get it. That is a blessing to know a voice is there to refute the jibber-jabber and name calling (ie…..”Biblically illiterate Ho’s”, “Einstein’s”, ect). Nothing wrong with slicing arguments and ignorance- through the Word of God, (Luke 6:35-36)….and name calling and and poking fun at those whom may be ignorant….is an open door to a proud heart (Prov 13:10 & Prov 28:25-26).
Much of what goes on (that is if it stretches outside of the lines of scripture) borders on gossip. (Romans 1:29 & Romans 2:1) We are no exemption from falling (Romans 2:1). Many posts are fruitful, but the spirit of debate is very crafty, and the name calling is truly a fleshy thing ….this is something that may bring about unecessary strife, and a wrong approach unto God and a stumbling block for some.
Just keep it in the lines of scripture (without name calling) if we really believe it to be the sword we say it is. (Ephesians 6:11-17)
Ephesians 5:11 appears to be pretty popular, but look at Eph 5:9-10, or Eph 5:12. It references conduct, and to reprove by removing ourselves. From them.
What about Eph 5:4 (foolish talking, jesting - meaning foolishness jokes and behavior)? Lets slice it up with the Word (II Timothy 3:16). I pray our conduct represents who we are more than words would ever say.
Again…….the Arminianism runs rampant. Hey Derrick………..who makes converts, you or God??
And, by what means has He determined to accomplish this, by the Word or by your exposition??
The assumption that God needs us to draw sinners is laughable……….not to mention devoid of Scriptural support.
Errrrrrrrr……..just wondering DTG……..does God ALONE draw men or does He share that ability with us (Scriptural support please)??
And……….if God alone draws men using the Word, why then is Beryle’s method so repulsive to you??
And……….if God can indeed draw men via the Word, without your assistance, why do you find it difficult to believe that He can then put this new believer into a Body??
He can save, but He cannot guide?? He can resurrect, yet He is clueless how to provide for His own in their discipleship??
Poor God……….helpless without our intervention. Perhaps Copeland was right……..He’s the biggest failure in the Bible.
Allllllllllllrighty then…………
lol smh- you almost had me G., trying to provoke me into a debate w/ you. lol. but you got it, man. peace.
What I do not understand (or maybe I do though it is so evident), is why are there heated, long and obtruse theological debates present? Many (especially a novice) do not understand the concept of “Arminianism”, and for those that do it is EXTREMELY debatable, which is a meaty discussion within itself. Are debate and strife (through vain words) regarding theology and doctrinal issues the purpose?
This opens an unecessary debacle, while some wonder, “What the hec is Arminianism?”, they should be wondering WHO Jesus Christ is as some posts are entirely misleading with regard to what the atonement really means to the believer. Makes me think of what God was saying to the Israelites in Isaiah 58:4 when they were so pious they believed their fasting was heard on high.
Doctrine and theological loopholes are the reasons the church is in the state it is in, and the reason these men whom “fleece” the flock are not regulated in the first place.
Less Theology and more Gospel.
Love and Blessings to all - Eccl 5:2-3
(MN - I couldn’t repond directly to this comment. So taking shameless advantage of my position as the site’s benevolent dicator, I am making my comment here, to make sure the connection is retained :
One of the reasons the church is in such a sorry state is that most of the sheep don’t want to have a theological discussion. They say it’s too boring.
Theology (bad) - God wants you rich
Theology (good) - We have been called to suffer with Christ
Theology (bad) - Jesus suffered in hell for our sins because sin is spiritual and he had to suffer spiritually
Theology (good) - Jesus reconciled us to the father through the blood of his body.
Theology (bad) - if you give to the Man of God, God will have to bless you 10/30/100 fold.
Theology (good) - the ox is worthy of his meal. But don’t think you can force God to do anything.
Again, ignoring doctrine is the reason the church is in the state it is in.
If people have questions, they ask. We learn - both in the listening and in the explaining.
Where else will the novice get the exposure? Certainly not at the average church they attend. That’s why they’re pimped to begin with. This site allows those who wish to sharpen their understanding and their skills. )
so if the spirit of God is in you, that’s the Holy Ghost, his spirit, and the word is in you, that’s the same word that died for us, and I speak by this spirit his word, has the word of God gone forth?, we are Vessels used by God to set forth his purpose, the redemption of man. God does not need you or me, so why use anyone, because it pleases him. No man can take credit for leading people to Christ we take pleasure in that he would use us to do it.
There are so many faiths today but there is only one truth, speaking the word of God, which is God
Does not mean I’m trying to take the credit or that God is not in control o contrary it would not draw flies
Without his spirit, were just being obedient and responsible in the part God has give us in his most wonderful plan
for our eternity. Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.
“TRUE DISCIPLE” EPILOGUE: To all who took offense to my original post, PUT DOWN YOUR ROCKS AND LISTEN! The sower sows the word, Matthew 13:1-23 is the fulcrum to my original post—nothing more. Since the Lord teaches us out of His law again and again, please ask the Lord to open your mind to understand the Scriptures; He will, as Jesus did for Cleopas and his traveling companion in Luke 24:45. Now Isaiah compacts the very same principle as seen in Matthew Chapter 13; look at Isaiah 28:23-29:
“Give ear and hear my voice, listen and hear my words. Does the farmer plow continually to plant seed? Does he continually turn and harrow the ground? Does he not level its surface, and sow dill and scatter cumin, and plant wheat in rows, barley in its place, and rye within its area? For his God instructs and teaches him properly. For dill is not threshed with a threshing sledge, nor is the cartwheel driven over cumin; but dill is beaten out with a rod, and cumin with a club. Grain for bread is crushed; indeed, he does not continue to thresh it forever. Because the wheel of his cart and his horses eventually damage it, he does not thresh it longer. This also comes from the Lord of hosts, Who has made His counsel wonderful and His wisdom great.”
Let us put on and stay clothed in the full armor of God that we may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. Continue to pray and petition at all times—using the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. In all this, God has NOT given us a spirit of fear, but of power, and love, and a sound mind! So, STIR UP THE GIFT THAT IS IN YOU! I’m going to the piano and work on a new song I’m writing. That’s all I have to say. FINIS!
Beryle
to beryle: woman, no one wants to stone you. peace
We’re not looking to stone back either, Derrick.
And I wasn’t trying to provoke you to debate…….just to thought.
I’m glad you’re here brother!!
ok, cool man. peace
hi melvin, because of the nature of this site, (and because of your integrity and transparency) i would encourage you to advise your financial supporters to stop contributing when you have a surplus of funds to maintain this site for a while. Exodus 36:5-7 i hope i didn’t offend you. peace.
(MN: No offense taken. My intention is to let folks decide. It’s also my intent to post the bill and the updated paypal account every week. Doint this will allow people to see how much is in the account for the coming month.
I’m generally heistant to say “Don’t give.” However, if like the Israelites, you guys are over the top, I certainly wouldn’t want people to keep giving. I’m sure you have better things to do with your money. )
You know what Melvin, it’s refreshing to hear some ask Brother or sister believers for help and not put the heavy On them, your efforts are worthy of it; your mojo is good. I don’t have much but the little I do have I’d like to pass On, now I’m not hoping that the windows of heaven will open And shower me with gifts, that God will bless me because I blessed the man of God, no Melvin the blessing is that you have Chosen a path lest traveled. Ahh is that a voice I hear in the wilderness Crying, help me help you.
I am quite sure that you are not going to have any trouble getting support. I am going to be very disappointed if the support is not only ongoing but corporate. I view the site on occasion but I do not participate in the conversations. I am going to challenge each of you to support this man of God because this is a voice than cannot be silenced. I truly believe that when you give you should not sound the trumpet as our Lord teaches. Nevertheless, I am going to take the month of November myself and I will leave it to the rest of you on how you would like to be a blessing. Until Melvin gets paypal together the use of Western Union is an option. I have used this on many occasions to bless other ministries. God Bless you all and go with the Lord!
I’ll start sending my tithe today! Pastor mj.
thanks for your enlightenment.
Please pray about helping out with this worthy endeavor. I doubt you will find this sort of financial accountability anywhere else.
Some don’t have much, but the need isn’t staggering either. Just a little would make a huge difference.
As a bonus, for all who contribute and send me confirmation, I will forward your addresses to Peter Popoff, Marilyn Hickey, and the Rev Ike.
They will then send you various little anointed trinkets. Just pretend they’re from Melvin………..
Melvin, for tithing to your website I was hoping you would bless me with some holy anointed water straight from your faucet, I mean from Jerusalem.
But seriously, this website is a blessing. There are bloggers on here who know their bible (Beryle, Rev AK, GaryV). When you get set up I’ll be one of the first in line to contribute. God bless you brother and keep exposing them for who they are.
Reply to Gary V.
Mr. Gary V, your missing it Bro. This whole site is about pimping the believer “G” why, why has God allowed this to happen. Yah, I know tares and wheat. No problem with that but what is the responsibility of the mature believer. Or do we have any responsibility at all. Ok, God blessed You with the gift of understanding you figured it out, so what’s your responsibility “G” pass your understanding along. Seems to me that you’re content to let the child stumble into a house of lie’s seeking the truth because you believe that all you had to do was sow, sorry Bro. But that sound likes someone that’s a bit gun shy, don’t want to get in the thick of. Well You’re in the thick of it Big guy. Believe me “G” I know God draws and it’s only by his spirit, but what’s the gift of teaching and understanding for if were not going to use it. No “G” God draw’s and that’s for sure but we must Disciple. Christ sets himself as the example. God’s not converting God is delivering out of darkness into the light dead men and woman, because a blind man cant decern color, green ,white, red it must be explained to them, taught to them. The truth must be multiplied, how do we do this we disciple. What is a disciple? : One who accepts and assists in spreading the doctrines of another: What is a convert: to bring over from one belief, view, or party to another. If the sower were not taught how to sow all the seed would have been lost “G” Don’t you want to teach someone to sow so that the seed is not lost? Also when I say “you” or “I” or “we” I always mean “you” or “I” or “we” by His spirit “G, It’s not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit,
Love Bro. G
Michael, precisely HOW do you know whom I do, or do not disciple??
Why are you assuming that I am NOT involved in ministry??
You claim that I am “gun shy”……..I’m not going to get into a tit for tat over your erroneous assumptions. Thus far, I’ve been “gun shy” in conferences, church pulpits, street corners, open air rallys, and on television.
The fact is, you have no idea who I am, or what I’ve done, or what I’m doing now. Do you??
And if you did, you wouldn’t post what you post.
Just let it lie……….
Your post….
“I’m not going to get into a tit for tat over your erroneous assumptions. Thus far, I’ve been “gun shy” in conferences, church pulpits, street corners, open air rallys, and on television (What about Luke 18:11-12, 14).
The fact is, you have no idea who I am (What about Gal 6:3), or what I’ve done, or what I’m doing now. Do you??
And if you did, you wouldn’t post what you post.
Just let it lie………. ”
Wow…..GaryV Prov 17:18
Amazing………you come here and reprimand Beryle and myself, puffing yourself up as a “discipler”. You ignorantly post your erroneous assumption that I am “gunshy”, and not about the Father’s business.
To disabuse you of your ignorance and slander, I correct you with facts……which you had neither the decency nor the courtesy to seek from me first before you dragged my name through the mud.
Now…………after instigating the episode and provoking me to correct your errors, you have the gall to call me proud and a pharisee…….for simply addressing your misinformation on a public forum.
You will note that I have never posted anything of the sort here before. If I was looking for praise, I would have. All I have EVER referenced was my humiliating foray into WOF, which is a source of embarrassment to me to this day.
I am content that you have revealed far more of yourself than anyone else could have through your actions here.
You could have done the decent thing and asked for the truth rather than post falsehood against me.
You could have swallowed your pride and apologized when you were informed of the truth.
Rather, you call me a pharisee.
I’m content that God has vindicated me through your vitriol. Your heart is exposed.
Can we have one of your lectures on love again, and the cross and reconciliation??
My friend G., What’s got your feathers in a ruffle? Who dragged your name through the mud? (I don’t see any mud) Who called you a pharisee? slowly now… breathe in….. now, breathe out…… 1 more time, inhale….. exhale…….. feel better? Don’t tell me you’re bent out of shape because someone called you gunshy? You’ve called people far worse. And if it aint (yeah, aint) true, then take your own advice and just let it lie….
here’s an old negroe spiritual for you to sing whenever someone has offended you- try it. works wonders.
victory, victory shall be mine (hand clapping)
victory, victory shall be miiiiiiiine-
if I hold my peace, let the Lord fight my battles, victory, victory shall be mine. lol Peace Bro. you’re waaaay to serious.
Just compare your post(s) (over the past year or so) and name calling with with 1 Cor 13, and check the difference. Actually I invite anyone to check his words from prior posts and compare it to what Pauls say in the scriptures…lol….anyone can contrast this and see an accurate depiction. Your own words condemn you….still praying for you.
The writing is here on the website, and the scriptures from the Bible. Thanks.
How then do you explain that same Paul calling men lazy beasts, liars, greedy men, Cretans, wolves, and other names?
Are you perhaps reading more into 1 Cor 13 than the context would suggest or allow?
Was Jesus not showing love when he called the Pharisees names?
Was John the Baptist less than loving when he called the Pharisees and Scribes vipers?
Was the Apostle John being mean and spiteful when he attributed the spirit of the Antichrist to some of the people around him?
You run a real risk when you take a verse and try to compare a persnon’s actions to the verse. If you do that, then God really screwed up when He had the Israelites go into the Promised Land and kill everything that moved. How loving was that?
No. His Words on this site show all the more of the intent. Many have had questions. (Not the ones making dumb statements defending the doctrines, and the teachers they are in a class themselves…that arguments is not pertinent here, because that isn’t what I am talking about) Some general people have been called names (One’s who even ask questions, with obvious intent of an answer only to be sarcastically bitten, and jived)…that is improper.
If someone is unaware and they are called out as if they were the false preacher themself (IE -Friend of God’s original post and GaryV’s sarcasm toward her when it was CLEAR AS DAY she was asking a question gently in which she never made a crazy proclamation or statement…that is the problem….and above all at the end of the dialogue. “I won’t hold my breath”, and “where did you get that bit of wisdom” -were original responses to clear questions by him in response to her - from an obviously concerned individual who had questions…..look at the post)….she understood what I was talking about because the gentleman’s comments were rough and sarcastic from the start…and she was thankful that someone understood, how many really desire to show mercy to those being hurt?
So to compare all (False preachers, those being deceived, and those whom desire answers to turn away) in the same group is a dangerous risk because where God draws and we dare to “puff” up and interfere by calling out strong language. The man’s words condemn himself….he is not calling the only the false teachers vipers (which is biblical), but the overthetop expressionism toward those whom vulnerably appear to have a lower degree of understanding when it comes to the word of God is flabbergasting….. call a wolf when you see it, but God is merciful first. Not the teachers Melvin, the people are being called out.
rumble young man rumble
LOl…..Yes….Sthirrr!
hi gridiron, it’s fun looking up scriptures as opposed to having them all written out to read. so i just want to know if you meant prov. 18:17. cause 17:18 doesn’t seem to fit the rest of your post. just checking. peace.
Correct, I messed up lol…I actually meant Prov 16:18, I saw it when it posted and was like what? Aww! Let me rebuke myself for that failure…lol….
hi gridiron (smile) we’re here to help one another out, right? i wasn’t being fastidious, i just wanted to pull your coat to that small oversight so that no one new to the discussion would say what on earth does that scripture have to do w/ anything. it is kinda funny when u read it. no rebuke here, just peace.
No, no offense taken at all. Thank you for catching that, and the way you did it. Much appreciated.
Hey Grid, I think you might of struck a nerve with the usually unflappable Gary V. Lighten up G. we still cool?
I’m cool D……….it just incredible that he calls me gunshy (doesn’t know me from Adam), then when I dispel that lie, he calls me a pharisee for addressing his lie (PS bro……..look up the Scripture verses he cited. The pharisee comment is there).
It’s cool………thus far no one has contradicted the verses I cited to support my position. That’s typical. just cite the love chapter………out of context…….and ignore Paul’s language toward false teachers and their supporters. Ignore Christ’s words toward them. And Peter’s. And Jude’s.
Precisely as the pimped do………..
It’s actually sadder still because it’s here as opposed to some WOF forum.
He was clearly wrong in what he said about me, but his pride won’t let him admit it. The ridiculous exchange Grid had with Melvin over theology……….where Melvin demolished his position……….couldn’t admit it there either.
Ah well……..I’ve wasted enough time with this little diversion. My posts are clearly marked with my sig. The articles Melvin allows me to post on the front page are as well. They can be either read or ignored as the individual prefers.
I’ve gotta go now………it’s my turn to lead the blind into the ditch.
LOL…..It cool brotha. I humbly apologize in any way (sincerely) that I have indeed offended you.
Now I do not retract the comments, because I used the word of God. The only thing I referenced was pride, hey you have your issues with what I say, but yet I have none with you. As an individual I truly believe you are wise, and have understanding. Go on and talk about JHB, T-Dex, Noel Jones, the man you call “Willow Boy” all you want….
Just the names you call people whom are blinded by these men, I have had an issue with. So with regard to any issues, I do apologize. I was not the one whom called you “gunshy” it appears you addressed myself and someone else in the same post, so here I offer a “white” flag in hopes of your acceptance. Thank you and I pray that any dissention is laid at the foot of the cross.
Gridiron
Lol,
Say what you will concerning my interaction with Melvin. It is interesting that you did not mention my apology to him above all, or identify the fact that you referenced two people in your last post to me….. The Lord is ever so patient with us it is amazing to know him……It’s cool, I love Jesus above all…and I love you too brotha GaryV.
Regardless….heartfelt repentance in the eyes of a Holy God is what is most important to me…..I could care less of anything else as it is summed up in Eccl 10:13-14
It seems I’m getting my detractors crossed……..sorry for that.
And I offer my sincerest apologies as well. This isn’t why we’re here, after all.
Part of the reason for our differing views of the pimped is because I believe the Word teaches the pimped are pimped because they LOVE to be pimped.
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure (Strong’s “bear with”) sound doctrine; but AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth (notice that their ears are NOT turned away by the false teachers,it is a CHOICE) and shall be turned unto fables.
Jer 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people LOVE [to have it] so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?
I do not………..as so many do………see the deceived as purely victims.
Were it so, the Bema Seat would be very different indeed. At that judgement, and certainly at the Great White Throne, we will not be able to point the finger at anyone else.
No one can say “I was pimped………..Creflo made me do it.”
No………the responsibility ultimately is upon the one with itching ears, not the teacher. Both shall stand alone, and naked before the Omniscience of God.
The Truth is available to all who seek it wholeheartedly
Jer 29:13