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Oh…my…gosh! I flipped my phone open this morning and what did I see but a text message straight from the hand of the Right Reverend Jamal-Harrison Bryant himself!

So does this guy know Anthony Robbins? ‘Cause the message didn’t sound a whole lot different than something Mr. Motivational Speaker would have said.

Maybe I’m being overly critical. Maybe I expect too much from a man whose followers claim he got a PhD over the internet. Maybe I’m silly to expect a pastor to somehow address something more significant than:

The man who can drive himself further once the effort gets painful is the man who will win.
Pastor Jamal

That’s it. Nothing else.

Oh. Here’s a screen shot so you won’t think I’m lying.

Couldn’t he have said something like “The best way to live is by dying to self”, or something at least kind of spirtual minded?

I told one of my sons about this and I can still hear him gnashing his teeth because he didn’t think of it.

I might, or might not bother to post the new one tomorrow. Oh, and somebody out there remind me to cancel my subscription before I get billed $4.99 for this. I could do better spending the money at Dover Downs rather than on this bogus “ministry.” I at least have a chance of winning at the track. And I’d keep the jockeys employed.

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Comment by J Train
2006-08-17 11:56:35

$4.99 is peanuts compared to the sums shown below - (full article appears lower down the page)

http://www.shepherdserve.org/e_teachings/2006_06.htm

 
Comment by eucatastrophe
2006-08-17 13:06:31

What is the deal with his Oxford Ph.D. anyway? An article in the Baltimore Sun’s magazine said he had a “doctorate of ministry” from Oxford, but Oxford doesn’t offer a D.Min. His Web site says he’s finishing his “Ph.D.”, but it’s strange that he uses that nomenclature. Like other UK schools, Oxford doesn’t call their doctorate a “Ph.D.”, but instead calls it a “Phil.D.” Plus, Oxford has a bunch of schools that he could have one from–Jesus College, King’s College, Wycliffe Hall, etc. But he never says what school it’s from. Combine all that with the fact that his theology and biblical exegesis reflect little of the thoughtful intelligence you would expect from an Oxford grad … it’s all a little fishy, if you ask me.

Comment by Gary V
2006-08-20 10:20:23

Eucatastrophe………….you must be new to dealing with Pimps. Let me help you brother.

He never actually SAID Oxford ENGLAND. Just Oxford.

It’s up to you to discover that he meant Oxford, Oklahoma, and that the school he got his “Pimpological hermeneutics” Degree (WOF PhD) is the illustrious “Oxford Beauty College and Biblical Training Center”.

It’s really not as bad as it sounds, because you can get the two absolute prerequisites for effective WOF pimpin’ out of the way at the same time……….. really bad theology and a splendiferous Pimp-’Do fit for airing on TBN.

There are actually several Pimp-’Dos available from the Beauty College portion of the Seminary, such as…….

The “Purple Crouch”
The “Murdoch Mullet”
The “Avanzini Hair Helmet”

And…….for those who graduate Summa Cum Laude or better, the “Retro-Benny”, an homage to the Benny Hinn ‘Dos of the ’80s.

Comment by eucatastrophe
2006-08-21 00:12:51

Ah … Gary V. If only you knew my true identity, you would not question my familiarity with pulpit pimps. Anyhow, your scenario is hilariously possible.

Comment by Gary V
2006-08-24 17:28:40

Well, a secret identity I’m certain comes in handy.Let me guess…….you’re Batman, right? ;-))

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Comment by Beryle the pearl
2006-08-21 04:19:00

TO EUCATASTROPHE: You is crazy–and hysterically funny! I needed that! B

 
 
 
Comment by Gary V
2006-08-17 16:40:13

Well, the least a conscientious Pimp can do is give proper credit for the quote.

That little nugget of……er…….wisdom was concocted by the fertile mind of one Roger Bannister, the man who broke the 4 minute mile.. NOT Jamal.

(MN: See the quote yourself by clicking here.)

Perhaps Jamal is going for a record of his own with this new “Dial_a_Pimp” program, and this quote proved particularly inspirational. I mean, where ELSE would a man of the cloth find inspiration anyway?? Beuller???Beuller??

Comment by Anonymous
2006-08-18 05:25:03

Bottom line:

It said that you would receive an inspirational quote from him….It didn’t say that he would be the author of the quote.

(MN: Then he should attribute it to the author instead of claiming it for himself. )

 
Comment by Marlon
2006-08-18 12:37:36

“Dial_a_Pimp”? That’s funny stuff…….lol

 
 
Comment by JW ...
2006-08-17 21:21:29

Melvin,

Just courious do you actually bet on horses ? “I at least have a chance of winning at the track”.

Do you play the lottery? Vegas trips maybe?

what’s said on this site stays on this site …

(MN: Nah. Just making a point about what a waste of time and money it is to support these pimps. )

 
Comment by flojo
2006-08-18 09:41:16

If you use a quote, without identifying who “authored” it, you are taking credit for that quote. The comment about this pimp’s education also makes one curious. Of course, the followers of this pimp would never question his claims on his web site.

 
Comment by Mr.B
2006-08-18 12:41:40

Sadly, people will STILL follow this “preacher” and defend him despite the fact that they are getting “pimped” in a new way. People, read your bibles!!! 2 Timothy 3 to be exact!!!

 
Comment by Tiannah
2006-08-19 09:36:17

Wow did he think of this all by himself I see he’s not just a copycat pimp afterall. he’ll b appearing this week at a conference in london along side fellow pimp mike murdoch. I wonder if he’ll plug this new service, the pound is stronger than the dollar.

 
Comment by Thorn
2006-08-19 17:18:39

Ironically, If I’m correct, he doesn’t come up with these comments. The company that he has working for him does. It’s often kind of plug and play. You sign up with a company for this service, the company does all the work except for the advertisement. Thus, you get secular messages that sound like they come from a fortune cookie…they probably do.
I’d hazard a guess that all Bryant is doing is using his name to sell a pre-existing service for a cut in profits.

Alternatly, he could be using a daily calendar for his messages…it’s what I’d do if I had a lax imagination.

 
Comment by Phiba Optik
2006-08-19 23:33:12

i give this cat credit for at least representing the church “evolved”.. many of us youngblood refuse to come to Jesus because we see litlle of “ourself” in what the church projects.. this cat dresses fly.. he uses “urbanspeak” and he markets the church just like the world markets Coca Cola.. most of all.. HE IS USED BY GOD TO SAVE SOULS..
there’s this rhyme i heard on a tape in ‘88 that makes me think of Pastor Jamal.. i think it’s by 2Live Crew… it goes..
U MUST GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE/ AND AT THE SAME TIME MAKE KNOWN TO YOU/BECAUSE WHEN U SEE IS WHEN U WILL BELIEVE/THAT THERE AINT ANOTHER DJ WITH CUTS LIKE HIS/AND I’M NOT MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS WHEN I’M SAYING/HE ROCKS THE HOUSE EVERY SHOW HE’S PLAYIN.. yada yada yada…
i strongly suggest Chika Onyeani’s Capitalist Nigger To you Melvin.. ’cause the money u spend on hosting this site on some whiteboy’s I.T. backbone coul have been used to build another brother up… as opposed to the “crab in the bucket” foundation on which this website is built..

Comment by Anonymous
2007-05-01 09:58:07

that all sounds good, but everything is not as it seems. fly is what the world considers as prosperous. Just because this man dresses fly and knows how to market “stuff” does not mean that God is prospering him.

 
Comment by timeis
2007-05-01 09:59:24

spoken like a true pimp and hip hop lover.

 
 
Comment by Melvin Jones
2006-08-20 01:44:16

Interesting comment. Just a couple of things though.

Unlike Chika Onyeani I do not consider myself as a part of the African Diaspora. I am first and foremost a member of the Body of Christ. Unlike the Jewish Diaspora’s link back to Israel, I share little in common with those on the African continent, except where individuals have made a saving commitment to Jesus Christ.

Additionally, I suspect his “urbanspeak” is more to draw in the young and biblically illiterate (listen to any of them defend this pimp). Most of the time, he doesn’t present Christ in their “language.” He present Jamal in their language. Again, read some of his minions’ postings and visit his site again.

I suggest God may in fact save some of the people in the Temple, but it is despite Jamal, not because of him and his methods.

Finally, I spend approximately $70 a month to get the word out on these pimps. People hear the truth and actually respond to it. Jamal on the other hand, has spent hundreds of thousands, if not millions by now, promoting himself. And (if you simply must inject race into the discussion) I’m willing to wager some white boy owns the cellular and texting system to get Jamal’s message out. I would wager that the car he drives came from some white boy’s lot, and the money he spends flying all over the place goes to some white boy’s airline, the taxes of which pay a bunch of white boy air traffic controllers.

I read just the intro to Chika Onyeani’s Capitalist Nigger. I wasn’t in the least impressed. He seems more interested in taking us back to an animist ancestry than promoting Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

Remember, Jamal is no more a brother of mine than the pimp down the street, with a couple of prostitutes in his stable is a brother of mine. They are both pimps and they are both detrimental to the spiritual well being of Blacks, Whites, Asians, and any other ethnic group stupid enough to listen to and follow him.

Christianity is not about appealing to race. It is about presenting the good news to the fallen human nature. God is gracious and acts even when we get it wrong.

Finally, finally - no one is trying to keep Jamal-Harrison Bryant from succeeding (crabs in a bucket). I am trying to warn those who would be destroyed by his and others often heretical, and generally screwed up doctrine. Would it be crabs in a bucket if I called the cops on the literal pimp down the street who is doing very well at the expense of his ‘hos?

Finally finally finally, be careful of how you define success. Jamal is going to have a lot to answer for once he faces Jesus Christ. And I hope it’s at the Bema seat, not at the Great White Throne.

Comment by Al
2006-08-20 04:01:22

My my my, Melvin. How the fans will keep defending these guys. Reminds me of the old saying, Tis better to be be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Now I am in no way calling anybody here a fool(only used it as an example) but when one comes on this site and post remarks that proves they are not studying the word but only hearing, I am sorry to say, they are only fans. Tis better to be thought a fan………

 
Comment by GSRH
2006-08-20 04:15:36

I really enjoy this site. I have been saying the same things that are being conveyed on this site for years. My ‘church’ friends get upset with me often (maybe because I can refute everything they say with scripture).

I feel so free…

 
 
Comment by sincere
2006-08-20 03:27:40

great post Mel…great post!!

Comment by Melvin Jones
2006-08-21 04:30:46

By the way, I decided not to post the ones that followed. They were equally generic. One even had a misspelled word . (Yes, I know my spelling is atrowshus…atroeshous..awful, but I’m not charging anyone 4.99 a month nor claiming some great anointing. )

Comment by eucatastrophe
2006-08-21 07:05:00

Lemme get this right: You’re saying that the text messages from the Oxford-educated bishop had a misspelling. Dang, Melvin, now I’m really curious. Why do you tease?

(MN: Here’s the message with the misspelling.

Nothing great will ever be achieved without great mean, and men are great only if they are determined to be so.
Pastor Jamal

)

Comment by Thorn
2006-08-21 10:04:28

Sounds like the Sphynx from Mystery Men has a new job.

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Comment by Sincere
2006-08-22 05:18:20

Hey, Charles de Gaulle called, he wanst those royalties from his quotes.

Here is where I read it:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/c/charlesdeg150420.html

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Comment by Shelby
2006-08-21 10:20:18

Speaking of Gay, I know for certain that Mr. Melvin Jones is a Homosexual! He’s just hiding it but it is there. Don’t be fooled.

Comment by PL
2006-08-21 13:37:47

No, No, No, Melvin isn’t a homosexual, I have seen him lust after women, he does it all the time… Look how he calls all these Pastors’ wives Arm candy…

Sorry Melvin, I couldn’t resist. I can’t belive these folks…calling you Gay…

PL

 
Comment by Beryle the pearl
2006-08-22 00:19:09

ATTN: MJ, please say this is a last posting too.

Comment by Melvin Jones
2006-08-22 00:24:14

Yes, I am if nothing else a gracious web dictator. That will be the last such posting.

If nothing else, I think I am hitting the correct nerve of the collective pimp machine. Some of the attacks, both on the site and off, are getting much more personal. Fortuntely, virtually all of my flaws are completely public.

 
 
 
Comment by GSRH
2006-08-22 01:39:37

The man who drives himself off of the cliff dies.

I made that up all by myself.

Comment by Gary V
2006-08-24 17:38:47

Hey, that’s pretty good!!!!

Here’s mine………”The most painful experience in life is not failure, but the failure to try…….. followed closely by frying bacon in the nude”

 
 
Comment by truthofgod
2006-08-22 04:46:35

This is starting to sound like quotes from “Shaquille Sunflower”: (One of the characters off of Martin).

Comment by GSRH
2006-08-22 06:32:03

I have more…

Comment by Melvin Jones
2006-08-22 07:33:28

No!!! Stop!! Please, no more!!!

Comment by GSRH
2006-08-22 11:32:50

lol

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Comment by BlackTheologian
2006-08-22 08:23:22

Dear Melvin & Community:

I just saw the latest edition of the magazine called “Gospel Today”, and Noel Jones was on the cover. What is really amazing is that they have labeled him: “America’s Most Profound Pulpiteer.”

Isn’t that amazing? Imagine, we are in such bad shape in America, and especially Black America, that we will call a pulpit pimp the most profound pulpiteer in America.

Maybe I’ve missed something, but can someone please tell me what is “profound” about Noel Jones? I live in the LA area and hear him all the time and everything that I have ever heard is anything but “profound.” I’m all ears if anyone care to help this brother in his lack of understanding. All I can remember Noel saying is” Turn to Your Neighbor and Jump in Their Lap”….

BlackTheologian

Comment by JW ...
2006-08-22 19:40:54

BlackTheologian,

Just curious other than Jesus Christ himself who do you think would be put in the class of profound?

(MN: Paul, Peter, James, Jude, etc. )

Comment by BlackTheologian
2006-08-22 23:41:45

Dear JW:

Well, that is an easy question to answer in one respect. If we’re talking about anyone measuring up to Christ, then the answer is absolutely no one is qualified to be called “Profound.”

However, even when we look at fallen human beings, it is important to look at the total package of a person and that includes personal holiness, integrity, and character. Unfortunately, many of the preachers that have the big names and big ministries fall way short of these attributes…including the gentleman on the Cover that I spoke about! I don’t know how one can be considered profound when all you hear them say is “Turn to your Neighbor and jump in their lap”.

 
 
 
Comment by Columbus
2006-09-09 04:19:15

When your right your right. I have to admit. Thats shameful. Not only that, but its plagarisim. He didn’t come up with that quote! I saw that same quote on a “success” motivation poster at my old job.

I dont know this man (or his ministry) from squat. So far he’s not scoring any points with me.

There is no point in a cell phone text ministry. Morover, theres NO point in a cell phone text ministry at $4.99.

But lets see $4.99×20,000=Nearly $100,000 a month. Maybe Im in the wrong business. Now before you burn up your keyboads in order to tear me down for that last remark, I wouldnt think of “pimping” a flock. Just a joke.

Comment by Anonymous
2006-09-10 01:14:10

We’re not here to tear anyone down Columbus. We’re happy you’re here. You remind me a lot of me 10 years ago.

That doesn’t mean we’ll coddle error, but we’re not here to preach to the choir either. Please don’t take any criticism of your beliefs as personal.

 
 
Comment by deb d.
2007-05-01 10:06:40

Melvin, why are people so blind?

 
Comment by Larry
2008-02-22 06:42:39

That quote sounds like something Vince Lombardi would say… are you sure Jamal didn’t rip it off?

Oops, who is Roger Bannister?

 
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