Please make no mistake, I know scripture, but I think the word is made plain enough so a child could understand. I need not flex my spiritual muscle. Therefore I speak in layman’s terms.

it’s amazing. When Jesus himself adressed his disciples, he never called them “gods”. I mean, if that were the message he wanted to get across at least he wouldve said it right? Well what about Paul the apostle, I mean surely he wouldve adressed himself as a “little g”. He actually was caught up to heaven.

it’s amazing how people treat the word of God like a jigsaw puzzle to prove a point. Sure scripture reference is important, but come on!

http://www.letusreason.org/Pent47.htm

I hope you get a chance to read it. I’m sure Melvin would get some encouragement from it too, after some of the comments he endures =)

I’ve searched the Scriptures, and have yet to find a passage that teaches believers that, by looking into another’s eyes, we will be healed, saved, blessed, redeemed, etc.

It is much too easy to breakdown this redundant, touchy-feelie type rhetoric; it merely identifies you as the follower of another ‘jesus’. Sadly enough, you don’t care enough about your own soul’s salvation to do, or to believe, much more than what these pimps instruct you; and, therefore, they are your ‘gods’.

Understand something, if they were, in fact, teaching the truth of the Gospel, and anyone came to hinder them, (much like what you’ve poorly attempted to do to Melvin and this site), then you would have a right to the ’suffer for Christ’ claim. Unfortunately, your stance is from the depths of your ignorance, and the only suffering the pimps will endure, is if you refrained from giving them your money, and hear the voice of God for yourself.

Anyone willing to tell you the truth has, and is, sharing the love of God. I have noticed that you’ve been unable to soundly dispute anything put forth here. Like a cut rose, you smell pretty, and look good sitting on a table; but, you have no roots.

It’s called Discernment and biblical and theological knowledge. The haters of the world want to diminish this truth at every turn. Thus we see ‘critical spirit’ and other personal attacks against a messenger.

“you can never satisfy and the fact that he thinks he is above the scripture “touch not my Anointed” is blatant arrogance and FAR from walking in Love.”
Do you even understand context and the real meaning of the touch not mine anointed? Or, were you spoon fed that by your own personal pimp?
And what is Love but to warn others of the dangers they may face?
“I have sat face to face with some of these men of God, looked into their eyes and my life has been powerfully changed because of it.”

Same here…here’s how it went…
It was no different that looking into the eyes of a ravenous beast intent on devouring you.
Their song may as well be out of the Jungle Book…
Trust in me, JUST IN ME
Shut your eyes and trust in me
You can sleep safe and sound
Knowing I am around

Slip into silent slumber
Sail on a silver mist
Slowly and surely your senses
Will cease to resist

Trust in me, JUST IN ME
Shut your eyes and trust in me…
(The Python’s Song)

Might as well have been since the jist of their commentary is “I’m right and you’re wrong. No I can’t point it out in the bible without shrfedding it and taking anything found out of context or adding new verses and meaning to it…but trust me, I’m right.”

“I Know the Copelands and countless others refuse to get caught up in the devil’s demonic plan of dissension among the brethren.”
So their calling on curses against ‘heretic hunters’ is love and not getting caught up in ‘the devil’s demonic plan’?
Some have even threatened violence. Some love…pimp love more like it.
“You see, a pimps love, is very different from the love of a square” -from the movie Idiocracy.

Melvin may be angry…but, if you actually read your bible, so was the Christ when dealing with the marketeers in the Temple and He didn’t seem too gentile when dealing with the pharasies…

But, I’m sure you have some spin for that.

Furthermore, Mel is a super specially annointed man of God. You just laid your mouth him…touching His annointed is wroooong…

I have sat face to face with some of these men of God, looked into their eyes and my life has been powerfully changed because of it. To negate their teachings to me is to negate the healing I have experienced in my body and the healing I am able to minister to others b/c I have sat under such an anointing. The man is on dangerous grounds to speak out against these men and these men DO practice what they preach so they will not retaliate but probably will send Melvin an offering out of Love as they have done many times. I Know the Copelands and countless others refuse to get caught up in the devil’s demonic plan of dissension among the brethren. And yes, the anointing always stirs up attacks and controversy such as this:) Anytime you know your Authority and Rights as a believer the devil gets upset and uses people like Melvin to attack.

As true followers of Christ, we should not even entertain such banter but cover each other with love as it talks of in Corinthians…..Melvin is a far cry from “Love hardly notices if one has been done wrong” and keep not record of wrong”. It is not our job to be critical of one another and mudsling; however, we ARE commanded to love one another. It is the LOVE of God that leads men to repentance not a spirit of criticism and sarcasm. The bible also says to have NOTHING to do with an angry man. Melvin, seems a bit angry. Wrong spirit. Period. You asked
First of all….before I even looked at this site like I just did. Over lunch time, I was already bothered in my spirit not even knowing what it was about. Melvin has a critical spirit which is something you can never satisfy and the fact that he thinks he is above the scripture “touch not my Anointed” is blatant arrogance and FAR from walking in Love. the man has a spirit of bitterness, has been wounded and has no clue about the truth on forgiveness.

As true followers of Christ, we should not even entertain such banter but cover each other with love as it talks of in Corinthians…..Melvin is a far cry from “Love hardly notices if one has been done wrong” and keep not record of wrong”. It is not our job to be critical of one another and mudsling; however, we ARE commanded to love one another. It is the LOVE of God that leads men to repentance not a spirit of criticism and sarcasm. The bible also says to have NOTHING to do with an angry man. Melvin, seems a bit angry. Wrong spirit. Period. You asked

(MN: Again ladies and gentlemen, here is a perfect example of why the pimps can continue to steal money from the sheeple. This writer is one of the reasons Paula White can stand up and talk about the day of atonement without any fear whatsoever of having anyone who watches her show calling her out. They are sheeple, begging the wolves to devour them. )

Let me get this straight………..you want me to get Creflo to deny Christ while rubbing your back??

(MN: Mickey - Unless your next posting is of some substance [and actually makes sense], you’re about done. Oh, and congratulations. You may have set a record for shortest time to get banned. )

(MN:

John 1:1, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God…and the Word became a human being.

These are just for starters. I suspect most readers could share another three or four with you. But I also suspect you don’t really want to be shown. So much for getting into the word for yourself. )

(AlJ)Help me out with this, because i don’t know a whole lot. Outside of Jesus calling the Pharisees names(face to face, righteous judegement), where else in scripture do we see a “personal” attack on one’s character. While I agree that we are taught to beware of wolves, vipers, false teachers etc, we should not to attack each other’s character (ie calling one “A B Withched” because she/he has a different view or maybe no understanding) when addressing them.

(GV) AlJ………not sure where you’re going with this. How do you simply say “Well, OUTSIDE of these multitudinous examples.” Who put them “outside”?? You have to tell me what criteria you used to come to the conclusion they don’t count.

Also, how precisely is calling someone a “wolf” “viper”, “hypocrite”, “whitewashed tomb full of dead men’s bones”, “children of hell”, “evil beasts”, etc NOT a commentary on their character?? What IS it a commentary upon??

1Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.”

1Cr 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, [concerning] him that hath so done this deed,
1Cr 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
1Cr 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Paul called the Galatians “Bewitched” which was what I was referencing. ALL of these are character commentaries. How could they NOT be?? Someone is a wolf,or a child of hell, or a hypocrite, but their CHARACTER is exemplary?? You’re delivering someone to SATAN for the destruction of the flesh, but they have sterling character?? You lost me here brother.

(AlJ) i have talked to plenty of believers over the years who had a somewhat distorted view of some things about Christianity but never called them a name when they don’t agree. Well, maybe when I was considered a babe and didn’t know any better but that was a different time. I was just reading Romans 14 a couple days ago and had to go to my sister in law and ask forgiveness for trying to force my view on her because she felt something was wrong that I did not, you know, the gray area. And i know the context of what Romans 14 was speaking of Gary, so no need in posting a reply to that passage.

(GV) AlJ, I think where we essentially disagree is as to the definition of the poster in question. She had false doctrine which is VERY damaging. She said she has a website where she TEACHES this rot. That makes her a FALSE TEACHER. Different rules apply than with a sister who disagrees about skirt length in the church, or whether services should be held on Saturday.

(GV)Now what if A B Lever was a new convert, just suppose, would calling he/she A B Witched be a good thing? Would inticing her/him with “TIC TOC…………..I’m waiting” benefit anything if they were a babe?

(GV) Did you read her comments?? Where in there do you get the impression she was a newbie at this??

(AlJ) What if an unbeliever just happened to stumble on this site and see such comments? What would they think of Christians. The world already think we are a bunch of nuts anyway.

(GV) Well, an unbeliever coming to this site might get the idea that the Word actually matters.It’s a false scenario anyway.

The unsaved think we’re nuts because they are unregenerate. Folks don’t get born again because someone either talks sweetly, or talks harshly. They get born again because the Father calls them and they are among the Elect. If they are among the Elect, nothing I can say can keep them from God because HE is the one who saves them. If they are NOT among the Elect, they aren’t going to accept Christ no matter how enticing my words may be.

(AlJ)While i agree there is a place and time for such (defending the Faith), I don’t think calling another brother/sister names to “show them up” is convenient. I know this is a forum but when it becomes personal, don’t you think we should get an email address and communicate that way? I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH.

(GV) AlJ, Paul’s examples above with Alexander and Hymenaeus, and the brother sleeping with his stepmom (whom was well known among them) and calling the Galatians “bewitched”, and wishing the Judaizers would just castrate themselves, and calling the Cretian believers “liars, evil beasts, slow bellies”.

It’s not always appropriate, I agree with you. But she came here (after ignoring the Word and being unable to support her position from Scripture…….which bothered her not at all) and called us close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Not only is that unbelievably ignorant, it’s the tone I was responding to. She wasn’t here to explore the Word. If she were, I would have answered quite differently.

(ALJ)No, I am in no ways a “fan” of Creflo, Long, Jakes or any of the like on TV but I have spoken to plenty who were fans of them and I handled it in a different way with attacking the follower’s character. Some of them just needs to be shown a different way and we need to use wisdom in showing them. I can assure you that by calling A B Lever “A B Witched” will not cause him/her to turn a deaf ear to Creflo and others.

(GV) Again, I have to disagree, or what was Paul hoping to accomplish by pointing out in very harsh language the wolves and hypocrites and vipers to the congregations?? Surely he was hoping that they would see them for what they were, and avoid them.

(ALJ)I believe I am to show them in love and if they don’t hear me, SHAKE OFF THE DUST AND MOVE ON. I can also assure you that this method has worked. the other way of yelling and screaming never worked for me as those who I engaged in this type behavior still felt they were right.

(GV) We may have to “agree to disagree” here to brother. If it’s NOT love as the Bible defines it (rather than the world) to call folks out harshly at times, then the Father, and Jesus and Paul and Jude (he was a GREAT one for it) and a host of others who did precisely the same thing were not walking in love either.And of course there are some major ramifications to holding that view.

As I said, it’s not always appropriate, and I don’t always use it. But when sin and false doctrine are confronted and retained, the most loving thing one can do is let them feel the force of their error. No need sugar coating it.

Anyway, I just wanted you to see it from my perspective. You can agree to disagree, and that’s OK. I won’t blast you for it…………..unless you start trying to tell us that you receive revelation directly from God while wearing a tin-foil hat, and He told you to tell us to send you all our money.

Then all bets are off!!

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