It’s all good Mel, I didn’t want the fuzz(feds) comin on here trying to catch you up. Nor did I want the pimped to have a reason to hate.

I just came across your website. I must say thank you for saying what many others refuse to say…are scared to say about what is happening in many of our churches today. Just the other day was flipping through the t.v and hit TBN. On ocassion I stop and check out exactly what new stubmling block they have put foward. Low and behold they were transmitting live from New Destiney Church in Orlando FL. TBN is really pushing this church and their pastor Dr. Zachary Timms. One night he had Pimp-Jamal Bryant. It makes me shutter everytime I see how people twist the word of God. If you get a chance please check out Dr. Zachary Timms church website at http://www.NDCC.TV . I searched and searched and could never find their statement of faith.

Can no find NDCC.TV site

Dr Timms also mentioned in his sermon concerning the “gift of business” that he has always had at the age of 13/14 when he hustled for a living. I was a little uneasy at that point. He proceeds to mention his former life in how that gift did not glorify God (specifically former life of Hustle).

He goes on to mention his murder charge as a 14 year old, and how he tried to put holes in someone older than him and missed every shot except one which hit the person in the ankle.

I felt him for a bit, I just thought that “business” talk of his former life may have been an attempt for street cred…I don’t know. I know that Paul did it, only when it was necessary, he was a Jew to the Jews in and identified himself as a Roman to those in Rome to present the gospel.

Dr. Timms was on TBN, and his past life was a bit extensive. And he also appeared so rehearsed as he read teleprompters (it appeared) during his message.

I am not aware of where I saw it, (as I have been guilty myself) but Paul (I believe) condemed preparation (as in messages) of the Word to teach, but to be led of the Holy Ghost when presenting the Word.

Please direct me to where that scripture may be.

OH yeah, he capped the dude because he stole his product (missed in the whole round, but one shot hit him in his ankle). I was surprised, I waited for his catch about an offering, but I didn’t catch it. But yet I only watched about 5-8 minutes of the message.

I don’t like fake preachers, I am tired of sweating screaming teachers who add Dr. to their names after then go on yelling people to Christ. I attend very large church pastured by a very famous preacher who is always being ridiculed but I go to his church for the word, no hype. I went there not knowing who he was (9 years ago) and stayed to be taught. Don’t waste my time tearing down other preachers. I don’t particularly care for Timms screaming and theatrics and I don’t like Bryant’s style of preaching, he creeps me out but there are different styles for different people. You all will have to answer to God for calling men of God “pimps”; you don’t know their hearts. If God called them, to preach and teach and they add theatrics and screaming and jumping around like wild banshees, that doesn’t mean God didn’t call them to preach and you will have to count for every judgmental word you put out there and while you’re looking up scriptures to validate or invalidate Timms or anyone else, try looking up the scripture where God struck Miriam with leprosy for questioning Moses’ anointing just because he did something she didn’t agree with.

(MN: Let’s start with Miriam and go from there. For starters, Miriam and her brother challenged Moses for marrying a Cushite, not for preaching bad doctrine or pimping the congregation. These guys are doing and saying things GOD doesn’t agree with. Next, I never claim to know these men and women’s heart. I judge their actions, their statements, and the results of their “ministries”. The result is usually personal enrichment at the expense of the flock. None of the information or comments included on this site deal with screaming and theatrics. It deals with doctrine, exactly what God told us to pay attention to.

By the way, by your measure, using Miriam as an example, isn’t saying the Jamal “creeps me out” doing exactly what Miriam did? I sure hope you don’t get smitten with leprosy! )

Who are you, the holy spirit? I don’t know if God called them and neither do you. (MN: It’s not a matter of whether He called them. It’s a matter of whether or not they are preaching the truth. )Maybe he called them and they added their own style and understanding and they don’t seek God before they preach. Maybe he called them and they don’t study or maybe they are doing the best they can. You don’t know WHO God called. God called Joyce Meyer in her 30’s and she preached in daisy dukes blowing cigarette smoke in the meetings - but she rich too so I guess she’s a pimp too? (MN: Yeah. But not because she preached in preached in Daisy DUkes or smoked. Not even because she’s rich. )

You must be really unhappy cause you’re spirit wreaks of turmoil. I’m done with this foolishness.

it is so interesting that somone would get on here and add Isuch foolish comments. Nicole, I pray for these brothers and sisters that preach false doctrine and I will be praying for you as well. Why? Because it is clear you have no idea who Jesus is. Seriously, you need to check yourself. My goodness look at all of the things you said about this man (Melvin) simply because he made comments about what your Pastor does as opposed to who he is. The Bible teaches in Galatians that if anyone preaches another Gospel that that man ought to be cursed. What this site does is warn others that believe in and partake in a cursed doctrine with cursed pastors. It is truly a shame that you simply do not understand that.

I find it interesting that you would defend your Pastor so vigorously and judge others while doing so. But what you fail to do while judging others is consider the points that they are making. For example, at your church, you are taught that “2007 will be like heaven” and that it is a time of increase. God wants to give us riches beyond our hearts desire, right? Wrong. Let’s see what scripture has to say about rich people:

James 2:5-6
Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

1 Tim 6:4-9
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, [even] the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
But godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into [this] world, [and it is] certain we can carry nothing out.
And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.

Hmmm seems that God is not in the business of making people rich. Not by any means. Not by some anointing or anything else. This anointing of Increase sounds a lot like “gain” well God says he is not about that in a monetary sense but rather in a spiritual sense.

Hi Melvin,

I think you should point Elder Henry Thrower who posted on 2007-01-05 14:49:36 on the Jamal-Harrison Bryant - Creflo Wannabe subject to Nicole’s post.

Maybe when Elder Henry Thrower reads the fruit’s of what Creflo Dollar bears he will start knowing those he should be praying, lamenting or weeping for.

I dont know about you guys but When I read Nicole’s post there is a sort of holy anger against this false teachers. They have totally messed up this poor womans concept of the LORD Jesus Christ and His SALVATION.

G2, I will say that (through the length of your posts) I appreciate the apparent sincerity you apply in dealing with everyone.

Keep learning & look toward the heavens.