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	<title>Comments on: Repeats and Platitudes - Same Sermon, Different Verses</title>
	<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses</link>
	<description>Speaking plainly about the pimpery in the pulpits.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11482</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to return to this site, and couldn't resist not  responding to you.  Go to www.tyrashow.com.  When you get to the official site for her show, look on the right side of the home page, and locate the "search" box.  Enter "Paula White", and you will be directed to the Wednesday, October 4, 2006 show, "Beautiful Women, Tortured Lives".  No, this is not Pastor Paula, she actually is..."a motivational speaker and life coach who provided guidance for thousands including former presidents and Tyra...

You will notice as you continue to read, there is no mention of her mega church, her status a preacher, not even the name of Jesus or God.  

I don't fault her, because many are following her as she whitewashes her position as a preacher and exchanges it for a lifecoach. 

I just pray that she will make a decision not to continue to straddle the fence by compromising the gospel for worldly benefit and acclaim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to return to this site, and couldn&#8217;t resist not  responding to you.  Go to <a href="http://www.tyrashow.com." rel="nofollow">http://www.tyrashow.com.</a>  When you get to the official site for her show, look on the right side of the home page, and locate the &#8220;search&#8221; box.  Enter &#8220;Paula White&#8221;, and you will be directed to the Wednesday, October 4, 2006 show, &#8220;Beautiful Women, Tortured Lives&#8221;.  No, this is not Pastor Paula, she actually is&#8230;&#8221;a motivational speaker and life coach who provided guidance for thousands including former presidents and Tyra&#8230;</p>
<p>You will notice as you continue to read, there is no mention of her mega church, her status a preacher, not even the name of Jesus or God.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fault her, because many are following her as she whitewashes her position as a preacher and exchanges it for a lifecoach. </p>
<p>I just pray that she will make a decision not to continue to straddle the fence by compromising the gospel for worldly benefit and acclaim.</p>
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		<title>By: ce</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11475</link>
		<dc:creator>ce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11475</guid>
		<description>I have a question for anyone who would like to answer. Do you believe it is not healthy or productive for pastors or church leaders to have a website on myspace.com? I listened to G Craig Lewis and how he brought out some things with using myspace.com. But I am not certain if this is correct or not. It seems that these pastors will do anything to "fit in" yet it seems harmless. Please someone help me understand. Thanks Ce (Chris)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question for anyone who would like to answer. Do you believe it is not healthy or productive for pastors or church leaders to have a website on myspace.com? I listened to G Craig Lewis and how he brought out some things with using myspace.com. But I am not certain if this is correct or not. It seems that these pastors will do anything to &#8220;fit in&#8221; yet it seems harmless. Please someone help me understand. Thanks Ce (Chris)</p>
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		<title>By: GSRH</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11466</link>
		<dc:creator>GSRH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11466</guid>
		<description>I really enjoyed the myspace page for Jesus.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#38;friendid=134679144</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really enjoyed the myspace page for Jesus.</p>
<p><a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=134679144" rel="nofollow">http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendid=134679144</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tweet</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11456</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Melvin...couldn't remember if I posted the link or not.  please add this to one of my earlier posts:

http://www.myspace.com/pwhitemin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Melvin&#8230;couldn&#8217;t remember if I posted the link or not.  please add this to one of my earlier posts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.myspace.com/pwhitemin" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/pwhitemin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tweet</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11454</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay...looking at some of the friends on her page, i seriously hope she isn't the creator.  at least some other so-called "Christian" artists, ministers, etc make it explicitly clear who they will and will not.  she didn't even attempt that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay&#8230;looking at some of the friends on her page, i seriously hope she isn&#8217;t the creator.  at least some other so-called &#8220;Christian&#8221; artists, ministers, etc make it explicitly clear who they will and will not.  she didn&#8217;t even attempt that</p>
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		<title>By: Tweet</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11453</link>
		<dc:creator>Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11453</guid>
		<description>I was trying to see if someone illegally (copyright infringement) put a clip on Youtube.  Haven't found it yet, by check this out...She has a MySpace page, and look who her "top" friends are (keep in mind she may not be the actual creator of this site...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was trying to see if someone illegally (copyright infringement) put a clip on Youtube.  Haven&#8217;t found it yet, by check this out&#8230;She has a MySpace page, and look who her &#8220;top&#8221; friends are (keep in mind she may not be the actual creator of this site&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: alh777</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11441</link>
		<dc:creator>alh777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11441</guid>
		<description>I'm back in town on US soil and only viewed this site in bits and pieces.  Does anyone have any info on the OCT 4TH-Paul White on the Tyra Banks link?  I just wanted to view it for myself.  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN JESUS' NAME...THANK GOD FOR THE PIMPS EXPOSURE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m back in town on US soil and only viewed this site in bits and pieces.  Does anyone have any info on the OCT 4TH-Paul White on the Tyra Banks link?  I just wanted to view it for myself.  KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN JESUS&#8217; NAME&#8230;THANK GOD FOR THE PIMPS EXPOSURE!</p>
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		<title>By: GaryV</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11417</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11417</guid>
		<description>C'mon Melvin........you don't expect our "humble servant" to pull his own car around, do you?? Or dress himself?? Or drive himself?? Or cut up his own meat and veggies??

Certainly NOT!!!!! Can't have God's mouthpiece lifting a finger.

I mean..........sure Paul wrote 2/3 of the New Testament. I guess you could say HE was God's mouthpiece...........

And certainly Paul didn't have reserved donkey parking outside the church, did he??

And why was Paul so often alone and hungry and beaten?? No armorbearers, that's why!!!

And I guess Paul was just too carnal to work up the faith to stop working like Jenkins too. Poor Paul, out making tents to support himself so he wouldn't be a burden the the churches. Silly man...........too bad Jenkins wasn't around to set him straight. New camels to ride, flashy new clothes, bangin' crib, birthday bashes...........all on the church's dime, too.

Paul sure did miss out.........

Wow..........just imagine how much Paul COULD have accomplished for God if only he had Jenkins to show him what REAL humility is about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon Melvin&#8230;&#8230;..you don&#8217;t expect our &#8220;humble servant&#8221; to pull his own car around, do you?? Or dress himself?? Or drive himself?? Or cut up his own meat and veggies??</p>
<p>Certainly NOT!!!!! Can&#8217;t have God&#8217;s mouthpiece lifting a finger.</p>
<p>I mean&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.sure Paul wrote 2/3 of the New Testament. I guess you could say HE was God&#8217;s mouthpiece&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>And certainly Paul didn&#8217;t have reserved donkey parking outside the church, did he??</p>
<p>And why was Paul so often alone and hungry and beaten?? No armorbearers, that&#8217;s why!!!</p>
<p>And I guess Paul was just too carnal to work up the faith to stop working like Jenkins too. Poor Paul, out making tents to support himself so he wouldn&#8217;t be a burden the the churches. Silly man&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..too bad Jenkins wasn&#8217;t around to set him straight. New camels to ride, flashy new clothes, bangin&#8217; crib, birthday bashes&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..all on the church&#8217;s dime, too.</p>
<p>Paul sure did miss out&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.just imagine how much Paul COULD have accomplished for God if only he had Jenkins to show him what REAL humility is about.</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11413</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 03:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11413</guid>
		<description>Humble - that's why he has an entourage of butlers (also known as armor bearers.  If he is SOOOOO humble, why doesn't he stop calling himself God's mouthpiece to you?  Why does he get his own parking spot at the front of the church?  Surely godly humility would eschew special favors like that.  Why does the church pay for his birthday party as well as his wife's.  Again, would true humility avoid such public displays of near worship?  

The more arrogant he gets, the more the scammed are willing to say "He's so humble."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Humble - that&#8217;s why he has an entourage of butlers (also known as armor bearers.  If he is SOOOOO humble, why doesn&#8217;t he stop calling himself God&#8217;s mouthpiece to you?  Why does he get his own parking spot at the front of the church?  Surely godly humility would eschew special favors like that.  Why does the church pay for his birthday party as well as his wife&#8217;s.  Again, would true humility avoid such public displays of near worship?  </p>
<p>The more arrogant he gets, the more the scammed are willing to say &#8220;He&#8217;s so humble.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: AMF</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-11404</link>
		<dc:creator>AMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike what you are displaying in your writings, Pastor Jenkins is one of the most humble persons there is.  You obviously have a personal vendetta against Pastor Jenkins.  It comes across loud and very clear in your writings.  I'm not sure what happened to you but you need help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike what you are displaying in your writings, Pastor Jenkins is one of the most humble persons there is.  You obviously have a personal vendetta against Pastor Jenkins.  It comes across loud and very clear in your writings.  I&#8217;m not sure what happened to you but you need help.</p>
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		<title>By: Curiuos</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-7525</link>
		<dc:creator>Curiuos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious of Pastor Jenkins' credentials (ie. College/University - B.A, Seminary or Divinity School - M.A. or PHD)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious of Pastor Jenkins&#8217; credentials (ie. College/University - B.A, Seminary or Divinity School - M.A. or PHD)?</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-6475</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 11:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-6475</guid>
		<description>WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-5764</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 05:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The e-mail is on its way. 

Melvin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The e-mail is on its way. </p>
<p>Melvin</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-5728</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 12:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to know what church you go to as well, and why you havent repented for all the scandal you are involved in.  You have alot of hate and anger toward men/women of God.  This is pitiful.  If you feel this way about these ladies and gents then tell them, dont slander their names and I bet you wont tell any of us what church you attend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know what church you go to as well, and why you havent repented for all the scandal you are involved in.  You have alot of hate and anger toward men/women of God.  This is pitiful.  If you feel this way about these ladies and gents then tell them, dont slander their names and I bet you wont tell any of us what church you attend</p>
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		<title>By: Sincere # 2</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4926</link>
		<dc:creator>Sincere # 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corrected question should read:    Are they compromisers also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corrected question should read:    Are they compromisers also?</p>
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		<title>By: Sincere # 2</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator>Sincere # 2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4920</guid>
		<description>The ministers are quiet on this issue.  Are they comprisers also?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ministers are quiet on this issue.  Are they comprisers also?</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4839</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jun 2006 02:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4839</guid>
		<description>They can do it by standing up and calling the pastor on the carpet, first privately and then in front of the church.  If the congregation refuses to get behind them then they leave and go someplace else.  I don't say this as if it is a trivial thing, and I'm certainly not including all the steps between the steps listed.  But the bottom line is you call the pimp out, first in private and then in public.  

That is why I say the deacons and elders at First Baptist Church of Glenarden are a little less than useless.  They do not have the testicular mass to do what the Bible says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can do it by standing up and calling the pastor on the carpet, first privately and then in front of the church.  If the congregation refuses to get behind them then they leave and go someplace else.  I don&#8217;t say this as if it is a trivial thing, and I&#8217;m certainly not including all the steps between the steps listed.  But the bottom line is you call the pimp out, first in private and then in public.  </p>
<p>That is why I say the deacons and elders at First Baptist Church of Glenarden are a little less than useless.  They do not have the testicular mass to do what the Bible says.</p>
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		<title>By: Genuine</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4830</link>
		<dc:creator>Genuine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 16:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melvin  I'm not familiar with the role and power of a Deacons Board.  Don't they report to the pastor?

How  can  they  stop  a  pastor,  such  as  Jenkins  from  allowing  a  homosexual  guy to  lead  Praise &#38; Worship  including  the  Music  Ministry  Department?

How can a deacon's responsibility overrule  a  pastor who clearly compromises the word of God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melvin  I&#8217;m not familiar with the role and power of a Deacons Board.  Don&#8217;t they report to the pastor?</p>
<p>How  can  they  stop  a  pastor,  such  as  Jenkins  from  allowing  a  homosexual  guy to  lead  Praise &amp; Worship  including  the  Music  Ministry  Department?</p>
<p>How can a deacon&#8217;s responsibility overrule  a  pastor who clearly compromises the word of God?</p>
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		<title>By: Honest Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4817</link>
		<dc:creator>Honest Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4817</guid>
		<description>"it almost doesn't matter what John teaches or does. "

Is that why they tolerate a pastor who  compromises  God's word by  allowing homosexuals  in music ministry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it almost doesn&#8217;t matter what John teaches or does. &#8221;</p>
<p>Is that why they tolerate a pastor who  compromises  God&#8217;s word by  allowing homosexuals  in music ministry?</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2006/05/23/repeats-and-platitudes-same-sermon-different-verses#comment-4815</link>
		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think it's safe for anyone to commit to any congregation without finding out what the leadership is going to teach.  The only thing the denominational label does is give you some idea, in general, what you can expect from the pulpit.  You have to decide how much difference you can tolerate.  You have to identify your own trip wires.

Virtually all of the less-than-useless deacons at First Baptist Church of Glenarden, for example, failed to identify that point.  Now, it almost doesn't matter what John teaches or does.  They will be there and will encourage others to stay.  Ask Deacon Lee and Deacon Featherstone if this isn't so.  Have them tell you what JOhn would have to preach before they would be willing to leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s safe for anyone to commit to any congregation without finding out what the leadership is going to teach.  The only thing the denominational label does is give you some idea, in general, what you can expect from the pulpit.  You have to decide how much difference you can tolerate.  You have to identify your own trip wires.</p>
<p>Virtually all of the less-than-useless deacons at First Baptist Church of Glenarden, for example, failed to identify that point.  Now, it almost doesn&#8217;t matter what John teaches or does.  They will be there and will encourage others to stay.  Ask Deacon Lee and Deacon Featherstone if this isn&#8217;t so.  Have them tell you what JOhn would have to preach before they would be willing to leave.</p>
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		<title>By: NOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad you agree with what I said:  everyone has been influenced by theological teachings in one way or another.

Given this fact, do you believe that it is  "safe"  for believers to join a  "non-denominational"  church  without first  investigating the doctrinal positions of the Pastor?

Ten years ago I was an unlearned believer.  I went to church, but I wasn't able to recognize doctrine and make distinctions.  Back then, I wouldn't have been concerned about a pastor's beliefs and church doctrine.

To God be the glory, those days are over.   I'm not going to sow my finances into bad ground.  I won't support a church that preaches another gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you agree with what I said:  everyone has been influenced by theological teachings in one way or another.</p>
<p>Given this fact, do you believe that it is  &#8220;safe&#8221;  for believers to join a  &#8220;non-denominational&#8221;  church  without first  investigating the doctrinal positions of the Pastor?</p>
<p>Ten years ago I was an unlearned believer.  I went to church, but I wasn&#8217;t able to recognize doctrine and make distinctions.  Back then, I wouldn&#8217;t have been concerned about a pastor&#8217;s beliefs and church doctrine.</p>
<p>To God be the glory, those days are over.   I&#8217;m not going to sow my finances into bad ground.  I won&#8217;t support a church that preaches another gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tweet,
You're right.  It didn't necessarily have that much on non-denom stuff.  

Basically, non-denominational means you don't "belong" to any particular denomination.  That you are not officially Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, or other denominations, of which there are literally hundreds.

As an example, I tend to be non-denominational.  If asked what denomination I am I tend to respond "Christian."  This is because I don't with most of the defining doctrines of the various denominations.  For example, I problably wouldn't make it as a Reformed Baptist/Pres/etc because I am not a sabbatarian.  I wouldn't make it as a Baptist (Independent or otherwise) because I don't see the intake of alcohol as a sin (though I don't drink because it makes it difficult to witness to others with a shot glass in my hand), I'm not a Lutheran because I reject the doctrine of Transmutation. 

The bottom line, a person may hold a great deal of doctrine that is consistent with a particular denomination, but they hold it because of their own personal study, not because the denomination says it's true.  Kind of like tithing and the Baptists.  
 
One respondant is right in that everyone has been influenced by theological teachings in one way or another.  But the idea here is that the church I attend is not associated with a specific denomination.  Of course there are groupings of churches who say "We are non-denominational" but have all of the trappings of a denomination including branding, doctrinal stands, and methods.  

I would tend to agree with the writer.  Any place that pushes too hard to identified as non-denominational is probably appealing to the public's desire to not be associated with mainstream denominations.  

Usually, a local church with no ties to other churches, except perhaps personal ties, would be considered non-denminational.  

Anyone have anything to add, disagree with, or clarify?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tweet,<br />
You&#8217;re right.  It didn&#8217;t necessarily have that much on non-denom stuff.  </p>
<p>Basically, non-denominational means you don&#8217;t &#8220;belong&#8221; to any particular denomination.  That you are not officially Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, or other denominations, of which there are literally hundreds.</p>
<p>As an example, I tend to be non-denominational.  If asked what denomination I am I tend to respond &#8220;Christian.&#8221;  This is because I don&#8217;t with most of the defining doctrines of the various denominations.  For example, I problably wouldn&#8217;t make it as a Reformed Baptist/Pres/etc because I am not a sabbatarian.  I wouldn&#8217;t make it as a Baptist (Independent or otherwise) because I don&#8217;t see the intake of alcohol as a sin (though I don&#8217;t drink because it makes it difficult to witness to others with a shot glass in my hand), I&#8217;m not a Lutheran because I reject the doctrine of Transmutation. </p>
<p>The bottom line, a person may hold a great deal of doctrine that is consistent with a particular denomination, but they hold it because of their own personal study, not because the denomination says it&#8217;s true.  Kind of like tithing and the Baptists.  </p>
<p>One respondant is right in that everyone has been influenced by theological teachings in one way or another.  But the idea here is that the church I attend is not associated with a specific denomination.  Of course there are groupings of churches who say &#8220;We are non-denominational&#8221; but have all of the trappings of a denomination including branding, doctrinal stands, and methods.  </p>
<p>I would tend to agree with the writer.  Any place that pushes too hard to identified as non-denominational is probably appealing to the public&#8217;s desire to not be associated with mainstream denominations.  </p>
<p>Usually, a local church with no ties to other churches, except perhaps personal ties, would be considered non-denminational.  </p>
<p>Anyone have anything to add, disagree with, or clarify?</p>
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		<title>By: Tweet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Melvin...that was me who asked the question about non-denominational.  I forgot to put my name.  Anyway, read the article and for as long as it was, I didn't get too much about non-denom, but there was some other good info...Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Melvin&#8230;that was me who asked the question about non-denominational.  I forgot to put my name.  Anyway, read the article and for as long as it was, I didn&#8217;t get too much about non-denom, but there was some other good info&#8230;Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: NOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 16:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know anything about Concerned Christian and his/her teachings as a  "non-denominational"  pastor.  Every preacher has been influenced by some form of theology and prior religious experiences.

I've always been warned to be careful about the so-called "non-denominational" churches.  Why?  They try to appease everyone of different faiths.  You can't do that because the truth of God's word doesn't appease everyone's faith.

Whenever I meet someone from a  "non-denominational"  church, I question them concerning the salvation doctrine that's taught.  So far, I haven't been impressed or felt lead to visit anyone's  "non-denominational"  church.   What they're teaching is not accurate. 

You can't take a  "balanced"  approach to doctrine without watering down or misrepresenting God's word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Concerned Christian and his/her teachings as a  &#8220;non-denominational&#8221;  pastor.  Every preacher has been influenced by some form of theology and prior religious experiences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always been warned to be careful about the so-called &#8220;non-denominational&#8221; churches.  Why?  They try to appease everyone of different faiths.  You can&#8217;t do that because the truth of God&#8217;s word doesn&#8217;t appease everyone&#8217;s faith.</p>
<p>Whenever I meet someone from a  &#8220;non-denominational&#8221;  church, I question them concerning the salvation doctrine that&#8217;s taught.  So far, I haven&#8217;t been impressed or felt lead to visit anyone&#8217;s  &#8220;non-denominational&#8221;  church.   What they&#8217;re teaching is not accurate. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t take a  &#8220;balanced&#8221;  approach to doctrine without watering down or misrepresenting God&#8217;s word.</p>
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		<title>By: Melvin Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melvin Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2006 03:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's an article I've been reading through.  It's kind of long, and it deals with the mega church.  But he brushes up against the concept of non-denominational.  
http://hirr.hartsem.edu/bookshelf/thumma_article2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an article I&#8217;ve been reading through.  It&#8217;s kind of long, and it deals with the mega church.  But he brushes up against the concept of non-denominational.<br />
<a href="http://hirr.hartsem.edu/bookshelf/thumma_article2.html" rel="nofollow">http://hirr.hartsem.edu/bookshelf/thumma_article2.html</a></p>
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