It’s fair to presume the subject person not mentioned is a member of FBCG and the subject of previously posted comments.

Who’s more wicked between Ministers of Music or Ministers of the Pulpit? If you expose one, you should expose the other.

Essence Magazine: July 6, 2006, page 166

Article: “Caught Up in the Rapture”

Subject: Pulpit Church Groupies, Lust, and Lies

The title is misleading in regards to the subject matter. Rev. Johnny Parker gives his professional insights. Melvin’s favorite word “pimp” was used by one woman during her testimony. One minister is a handsome, married, pastor in Baltimore.

According to the bible, a little leaven leavens the whole lump. Thus, adultery and homosexuality are just as important as false teachers. These issues should be put on the table and discussed.

Today’s churches are full of unregenerate people who were never converted. For various reasons, that’s not a priority of many large denominations. The integrity of ministries has dissolved as they pursue things that draw money and large crowds.

The homosexual demon is a very powerful demon that takes possession of the person. This spirit will stay until it’s cast out. It doesn’t go away when someone makes a confession of faith. Professionals say the older a homosexual man gets the younger his prey become. He acts according to whether his environment is open or against towards homosexuality. In certain settings (ie, church and work), the homosexual preys on married men, also. Any man that hangs around them is usually bi-sexual or gay.

****** **** (MN: I edited the name) went from nude dancing and shakin’ his little thing on stage of night clubs to singing gospel. His spirit was never purged. The Holy Spirit can’t dwell in an unclean temple. Therefore, it never took residency in him.

Satan himself, in a sense, was a minister of music. He has a host of talented singers who will spend eternity with him in hell. Fornicators and homosexuals are banned from God’s Kingdom. Galatians 5:19-21, Ephesians 5:3-5, Jude 1:7

The above walking wounded person needs to repent of his homosexual deeds. If not, he will perish. His pastor’s approval can not save him.

Without holiness NO man will see the Lord. [Hebrews 12:14]

“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, …., and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone,…” [Revelations 21:8 NKJV; Revelations 22:14 ,15; Jude 1:7]

I’m glad you emphasized “Jesus” was the one who influenced the relationship. That’s why the Samaritan woman repented. Today, believers tend to use the label “Christian”, but most are not like Jesus.

The above referenced gay man is not a new believer. S H*** has been inside church for over 15 years. If his Pastor and church peers were a godly influence, he should have repented years ago.

Stop making excuses for this guy.

So how many different ways does it have to say “Have nothing to do with those who preach another gospel” before you decide to have nothing to do with those who preach another gospel? The only question would be how to execute the action, not whether or not to execute the action.

If you want “peace”, leave the situation alone and turn it over to God. Do not write a letter or approach your pastor. WHy?

1) He and his staff keep tabs on what’s said on this site. He’s already familiar with everyone’s gripes against him.

2) You’d be wasting your time and taking a risk of being mistreated.

Be patient and seek God for the solution that’s best for you and your family.

Meanwhile, let’s agree to disagree. Love & Peace to you.

You’ve been given numerous pieces of advice. The final decision is up to you.

By now, you should know the culture of that type of environment. If you’re uneasy now, how will you feel if your concerns are ignored? Then what will you do?

If you have children and a spouse who can’t discern between sound and unsound doctrine, you need to consider leaving WITH your family. As the head of your family, you need to protect them and your spouse must be on the same page.

Fast and pray regarding the conflicts between you and your spouse. Fast and pray about leaving also. Don’t make a move without seeking God’s will. In the mean time, continue interceeding for your church.

I’m not saying that repentance is not necessary. I think if I were to align my thinking with scripture, I would reference Jesus and the samaritan woman (John ch3). Jesus completely influenced that relationship, he first did what most Jews would never do and that was talk to her. Kind of like TWG with this gay dude, the jews look upon her as filthy and beyond repair. the Key here is Jesus influenced the relationship, and the woman repented. Check out Matt 11:19

…You know what they say happens when you assume! Not to mention, stereotypical. My question was rhetorical.

I think of a statement my pastor made during one of his sermons. He was talking about some tragic event (I think it was christopher reeds wife) where as humans, are knee jerk response is why would God let her die from cancer after years of takinng care of disabled husband (bad things happen to good people). My pastor offered the notion, why would we expect God to view death the way the we do as humans? God is eternal and all knowing, the after life is a mystery to mortal humans. So hence, physical death comes off as the end and it is merely by faith we believe in the afterlife (interesting term in this context…after life). Our finite minds put value in the things of this world, the tangible.

In the same train of thought, FBCG is not the major concern but rather the souls that attend. The economy (for lack of a better term) that we are in gives us the privilege to CHOOSE what we will associate ourselve with. God doesn’t send a plaque of locust, burning bushes, etc. Rather he sent the Gospel for us to respond to individually.

So, I say all of this to say FBCG can grow to a million people and build a building the size of three stadiums, but the accountability falls on us as individuals to determine where we should worship and what we will believe.

So don’t sit around waiting for God to consume FBCG by fire or send a plaque, just leave. When you and others who seek truth leave, that is in fact the cleaning of the house.

(MN:  We’re trying to see if it can be avoided to begin with but the issue seems to be with Internet Explorer.  A work around that is good for me is to change the font.  That is done from the toolbar, menu item “View” then choosing “Text Size.”  From what I can tell, if you pick any font size at all (other than the one you are at), the text will return to normal.  Unfortunately, once you look at a comment, because I have the option to reply to a specific comment), the text on the right side (Pages, Polls, Recent Comments, etc) are all thrown down to the bottom of the page.  From what my vastly over priced web master says, IE simply doesn’t work smoothly with the blogging software I’m using.  If at all possible, I suggest you change over to Mozilla Firefox.  I use both IE and Firefox and I have had ZERO problems with the text.  Bill Gates is the Anti-christ any way and you shouldn’t be giving him any money. )

On last night, our paths crossed. I wanted to speak to you and apologize. That wasn’t possible because we were in a rush to get to our destinations. At any rate, I’m going to do it now. **It won’t be a typical apology because I’m still in a venting mood.

For some time now, you’ve carried hatred and bitterness in your heart towards me. That’s why you can’t speak and try to avoid me. Hatred and bitterness has further “defiled” you; So you need to repent from that also. (Hebrews 12:15) You can’t say you love or know GOD and hate someone. (1 John 2:9, 1 John 4:20)

As you know, I personally admonished you several months ago. You couldn’t face the TRUTH. So you walked away. Perhaps you were in a state of “denial”. Nevertheless, GOD will hold you accountable for my spoken and written words.

GOD is omniscient. He knows all your thoughts, motives, and actions. Stephen, you can’t fool GOD with your “acts” and “staged performances” at church. You can’t fool GOD by talking to or sitting next to females for “appearance sake”. GOD knows your unnatural, sexual desires for men and other sins. He knows you have not repented! Your worship is in vain. (1 John 1:6, 1 John 2:1-6)

Hopefully, this will be my last sermon to you. I’ll let GOD speak for himself via His word:
“Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, …….., hatred, ….., heresies, envy, ……., and the like; ….. just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will NOT inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21 NKJV; Ephesians 5:3-5)

“But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, …., and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone,…” Revelations 21:8 NKJV; Revelations 22:14 ,15; Jude 1:7
**Only your repentance can keep you out of hell.

Oh; Now where was I? Back to the apology: Stephen H******, I’m sorry if I offended you with my comments on this website. No; I never stated a word that was not true. It’s just that my motives were wrong and ungodly. My heart was bitter. That caused me to sin against you. So I owe you an apology.

Hopefully, you can forgive me some day. Yet first you must get healed from your “strongholds”. If any of you readers know how to get a prayer through, please keep Stephen H*** in prayer concerning his “repentance” from homosexuality and bitterness.

Stephen, I know this may fall on “deaf ears”: Again, I apologize for offending you with my comments (including tonight’s). When you stop being angry and afraid of me, remind me to tell you the story about my cousin.

Yes; We all sin in some way. But we must repent of those sins.

I assume you’ve been indoctrinated with Baptist doctrine. That’s too bad. You won’t hear them and other false teachers preach from 2 Peter 3:9. This passage was addressed to born again Christians.

“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”

God is patient with us concerning time. He’s giving us space to repent of our sins. That’s because He doesn’t want us to “perish”.

For homework, would you mind defining what it means to “perish”?

“For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?” 1 Peter 4:17

“that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish.” Ephesians 5:27

1) Repentance is not a work of God. That statement is not scriptural. God never over powers man’s will. God may cause circumstances to come into ones’ life that leads him to repent. Yet God himself does not cause ones’ heart to repent. A man’s decision is based upon his “free-will”. Neither before or after salvation, are we “robots” made do obey. For details visit:
http://www.swsbs.edu/pages/writings/Garner/salvation.html

2) In 2 Corinthians 7:10, God said, “For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted;…” Here’s the New Living Translation of what God said: “For God can use sorrow in our lives to help us turn away from sin and seek salvation. We will never regret that kind of sorrow. But sorrow without repentance is the kind that results in death.” Neither one of you have a right to teach something different!

3) Today’s churches have ignored God’s word by promoting belief and not repentance during their evangelism. (Mark 6:12, Luke 24:47) Believers should have a mind to repent BEFORE they’re baptized. (Matthew 3:11, Acts 2:38) Repentance is a required part of one’s salvation also. For details visit:
http://www.biblestudylessons.com/cgi-bin/gospel_way/repentance.php

It’s only the FALSE teachers who believe and teach otherwise.

Truth.

What if God doesn’t “clean house”?

2. Repentance is not any kind of emotional state such as sorrow. Sorrow, although it may accompany salvation, in itself does not save.

3. The church today has replaced the believers’ faithful response to accurate teaching with emotionalism. “Sincerity” and emotion have replaced faith as the acceptable response to God’s Word. Because emotions do not have brains they are an excellent basis of response to false teaching. Today we have an entirely false system of worship based upon emotional response without critical evaluation of the content of bible teaching.

3. Titus 3:5 “He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,” NASB

Free doctrinal bible studies: http://www.black-renaissance.com/doctrine/index.html

( MN:  I knew if I left this alone long enoug some one would provide the right answer.  You are exactly correct.  One cannot “feel” sorrow for their sins until they are born again.  If, once the person professes salvation and there is no sorrow for sin, then it is likely the person has not accepted Jesus Christ as savior; there is no re-birth. And if there is no rebirth, it is likely there will be no change.  As result, the person will not be able to please God and will have no desire to please God because he is still unregenerated. 

The fellow nattering on earlier about repentance was reversing the process.  He has been insisting that the unsaved do something he or she cannot do:  feel sorrow for their offense to God (as opposed to feeling sorrow for the fix their sin has gotten them in - aids, divorce, children before he got married, etc).  Remember, before salvation, I am an enemy of God, I do not want to obey His law and I cannot obey His law (Romans 5:10, Romans 8:5-8).  The unsaved may as well be a monkeys trying to do quantum physics as trying to live a life pleasing to God.

And if you live in the Hudson Ohio area give the The Renaissance Leadership Institute a call.  A quick perusal of their site speaks pretty well of them. )