I watched the Jamal-Harrison Bryant Show the other night on the Word Network. I noticed too, that his church called “Empowerment Temple AME.” From this I can probably safely guess that he is standing under the African Methodist Episcopalian banner, more or less identifying with the AME standards and teachings.
Of course, I have to wonder how many of the people who attend the church ever even wonder what AME stands for, much less what the words mean.
I bring up the AME thing because it adds to my assertion that the man is a pimp, more interested in building up his stable than in building the indidual Christians within the stable; more interested in making a name for himself and building an empire than he is in glorifying the name of Christ and building the individual saints.
He has, apparently, taken up the “AME” moniker to gain access to that organization, and its resoucrces, and its credibility. A sort of name identification process. But having used AME to make himself legitimate, he is going far afield, hooking up with those who have proven their ability to draw crowds and create mega-churches. Unfortunately, this includes people like T. Dexter Jakes, Noel “The Weasel” Jones, Cashflow Dollar, and others.
Truth has nothing to do with it. Personal profit and magnification are the bottom line.
It’s nice that people turn their lives around there at Empowerment Temple. But turning your life around is not the same as becoming a New Creation. And it’s nice that people come there and get a focus in their lives. But getting focused is not the same as getting a new heart and a new nature.
If the good reverend ran a McDonald’s franchise, would he be able to keep the Golden Arches outside the store if he didn’t serve Big Mac or keep the place according to franchise standards? I suspect Mr. Bryant is AME in name only.
With JHB being the son of a prominent AME Bishop, it would be strange for him to start a church outside of the AME denomination. Do I see the structure/ideals of the AME church being demonstrated in ET? No, but here’s the reason why he’s still accepted as being part of the AME family.
Alot of the mainline denominations are struggling to grow with certain segments of the population (ethnic groups, 13-35 age group). With JHB out there carrying the AME banner, it puts in some people’s minds that the AME church is contemporary. The mainline denominations are scared of the exodus of their next generation to non-denominational/Pentecostal churches.
JHB is a good promotional tool.
I was raised in the Baptist church and I hear some people I grew up with claiming Bishop Eddie Long as their own now. They don’t care about what he is saying or doing, they just remind people that his church is still New Birth Missionary Baptist.
I just want to know if any of the big names teach and preach (and live) the same Gospel that I read in my Bible. If not, there’s nothing that they can say that I want to hear.
(Melvin’s Note: Well said. And some very helpful insight. )
Why should it matter how big, the name? However people acknowledge names, who fault is that? Perhaps, if people recognized annointing only, names wouldn’t matter as much.Which all names mention obviously has? If you listened I am sure you have heard
I agree as well. But my concern also is why do they charge to spread the word of God? To even get some of them to speak at your church is not less than 5 or 7,000 dollars. I dont recall Jesus ever charging the church or people when he went to spread the Good News throughout the city?????????? Whats up with that?
You are right? But it cost money to get there. Who’s going to pay for that? Him? I don’t think so. That is his profession for one.
Are you working for free? Bryan Mcknight gets paid to sing. You pay him to sing. That isn’t nearly worth it. But when you are talking about saving souls that is priceless. What he gets can’t compare to keeping a soul from going to Hell. Would you travel the world as a public speaker for free. Will the airlines, hotels and restuarants waive your bill just because you are speaking. Nope? Be Blessed!!
You are absolutely right? I have seen him in person. He is an annointed man of God. He has a calling on his life. Names do not matter. (MN: Actually, Holiness matters. Jamal has apparently been anything but holy in the last couple of years. He has a host of Baby’s mamas following after him. He is a shame to the AME convention. Contrary to Scripture, he is not above reproach. He has demonstrated himself to be destitute in character and has demonstrated nothing in the way of remorse for his actions.
I don’t normally bring up these kinds of things, but it is so irritating and frustrating to listen to you sit here and defend a man who appears to be incapable of keeping his hand and other parts of his body from young things. )
God is what matters. God will bless those who bless Him. (MN: And He will punish those who blaspheme His name among the gentiles. )
Why shouldn’t Pastor Bryant be successful. He gives of himself spiritually, physically, and emotionally. (MN: He certainly gives of himself physically. He has several…uh…extramarital children to demonstrate that. ) He devotes his life to feeding the flock. Nobody isn’t saying anything about our deciteful government who takes money from us and everyday. (MN: I’m a conservative. Believe me, I complain about the goverment taking money from me. ) But let a black man who models some power become weathly…You come up with your own conclusion. (MN: My conclusion is that you are a spiritual moron who really hasn’t paid attention the the exploits of the Bagger from Baltimore. ) Be Blessed!!!
Hey Too Silly………here is a link where you can listen to Jamal tell us that Delilah was giving Samson oral sex, and that is why Samson didn’t notice the Philistines getting ready to pounce on him.
Wanna tell me again how this pervert is “feeding the sheep”??
WHAT KIND OF CARS DO HE DRIVE.AND HOW BIG IS HIS HOUSE.
He was last known to drive a Bentley Continental Flying Spur and the house is valued at over $1 million.
JHB did not just come up with his teachings on his own. Apparently his father had to be false as well…..and he turned out to be twice the devil his father was. I don’t think any of the denominations are of God…it should just be The Word of God and nothing else (there was not any in the bible). Most of the preachers’ churches today (and prior to them) have a title AME, Baptist, COGIC, etc. TD’s for instance is non-denomination however, he grew up penicostle, and visited several other churches as a youth….then he mixed all of the religions (or his beliefs)together (ie. strong drink according to the bible) so if I have a non-denominational church and penicostle, baptist, catholic, etc. beliefs I would not have a problem with one or all of these denominations visiting my church. Paul Crouch allowed it when he had this “so-called Pastor” on who used to be Muslim. He taught out of the Koran and the Bible and is now traveling to christian churches teaching this doctrine. He says the Koran has 95% of the bible contained in it. Pretty soon all of the religions are going to be mixed up together. Plus it does not hurt that the “Gospel Celebrities” are getting major bucks from the people they decieve.
I like what you said about lives changing not being the same as being a new creation. I have friends who went through AA and other drug related rehabs and I can honestly say that their lives changed and for the better…temporally speaking. I mean, follow the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, Buddhism, or Christian Science and you will see a life change. Only the Gospel can bring about the internal change that is empowered by the Holy Spirit, for the Holy Spirit only uses the revealed (Genesis through Revelation) word of God.
Good thoughts.
Yes, Bryant’s dad is John Bryant, who is the main bishop here in Southern California. Did not know that until I stumbled on the Los Angeles District AME web page. But I agree with the previous poster because face it, this demoniation has declining membership and they figure that they needed to be with the “big dogs” in order to increase their membership. Junior Bryant with his presence has to increase their numbers so he has to do the charisma to pull the folks in–and get those speakers other than their demoniation (Jakes, Jones, Long, etc..) to full their building.
The same thing has happened with John Cherry and Frank Reid, both also out of Baltimore and out of the AME denomination–only Cherry has adopted the word-faith docterine of Fred Price.
Not true, Cherry has not adopted the word-faith doctrine. I am a former member who has many friends who still attend. Pastor Cherry is one pastor who stands up for what is right. Please get your facts right before you spread lies!
Then why is his church a sister church of The Reverend Frederick K. C. Price? If he is not WoF why in the world is he so closely tied to them?
Fred Price used to come to preach at Cherry’s church every year when I was a member back between 1997-2002. He has not been back. Once Price adopted that WOF attitude, Cherry bowed out and has not invited him back since. They may still be on speaking terms, but Cherry isn’t down with the WOF types. This is one Pastor that stands on Gods word. His son will be taking over as Pastor soon.
Sorry, but Fred Price has been WoF since the very early 80s, at a minimum. I have a book he wrote back in the 80s. I feature the book in one of the previous postings. He’s been around at least as long as Copeland and have been running in the same circles for about the same time.
Now we are talking about the fellow who tried to keep the AME building when he split with the AME denomination. That John Cherry, right? And we’re talking about the John Cherry who has his wife preaching (and not just to other women). That’s the John Cherry you’re talking about?
And tell me why his son is taking over, just like the Reverend Frederick K. C. Price’s son.
Try again.
You know what Melvin:
1. Pastor Cherry had a 20 year vision as Pastor when he started the church back in 1986. The twenty years end this year so he decides to rest and preside over the numerous churches he has around the world. His son will resume the Pastor role this year. His wife is not a assisant pastor, she is a teacher. I have heard her speak and that is just what she does, teach. Melvin, where do you attend or are you a coward!
Fess up !!!!!!!!
Crusing,
What’s your point. She isn’t suppose to preach, teach, or hold authority over a mixed group.
And, by the way, since when did the churches become Cherry’s churches.
I won’t even honor you last silly comment with an answer. You obviously are not being honest in this exchhange.
What do you mean by a mix group? Excuse me From the Heart Church Ministries, and how am I silly? Where do you attend? I mean, why can’t I get an answer? What is the big deal about telling someone where you attend church, if you even attend anybody’s church. You always take defense when someone is against you!
Okay Melvin, you win, I was over the top a little, but you are not always right about your theories. I know about that particular church very well, and I know that they teach the uncompromised word of God. Also, I feel that you pick on Mega churches!
I don’t think Melvin is picking on Mega Churches as much as he is picking on the pimps who happen to have mega churches. This is indicative of our depravity to gravitate towards those things that sooth our sensations.
I would say that Charles Stanley’s Church could be classified as mega, but Stanley is not pimping the congregation. Melvin hasn’t picked on him.
John Cherry has turned his church into a business and has forsaken his original teachings…. (MN: As usual, I need documentation: Permits, licenses, something in print. Quotes and website contents would be good as well. )
Excuse me damagoh?……..Charles Stanley is false too…..just because he is not asking for cash does not mean that he is of God. He is still giving false doctrine and he does sell his books and tapes.
Hi Melvin, I am not a member of Pastor Cherry’s church “From the Heart Ministries”, but I have listened to his teaching quite a bit. As a matter of fact, listening to his teachng pulled me from the “word of faith” teachings, because he teaches fervently against it. I was confused about the word of God because of the false doctrines taught by so many mega peachers and their high availability on TV, and his teachings along with my pastor’s, Charles Stanley and a lot of prayer freed me from the confusion and the manipulations. I cannot tell you wheather or not his church is a sister church with Fred Price, but I do know they have been friends since they were very young boys. For me, I may limit my association with someone because of their false doctrinal teachings, but I will not stop being their friends and loving them even though it will place a damper on the level of association. Please check out your facts throughly and not condemn him because he is a friend of Fred Price. His teachings is too important against false prophecies and false teachings as yours is, but please prayfully have all the facts before any allegations. I think you in the process of a serious and mighty work of lifting up the word of God and outling while some peachers/teachers doctrine is scripturally is toying with apostasy and some cases it is.
God bless you
Thank You
hi ruth, i just read your comment on cherry, stanley a the whole group of mega preachers. i agree with u. i think alot of these bloggers need 2 get a LIFE. holla at u later.
scottie
To clarify, John Cherry left amid controversy the AMEZ Church. From what I know, Cherry’s church was called Full Gospel AMEZ Church.
Eric.
That’s a shame.
This really is sad. I’m told he just got a new Bentley to go along with his trophy wife and their kids. So he can look real good hanging with the ” Big Dogs”. I am curious? What about the unacknowledged kids out of wedlock and how expensive of a car do you really need? House with an elevator? Some of his members don’t even own a car let alone their own home or apartment.
(Melvin’s Note: I believe the early child is spoken of in the Gospel Toady article. But strictly speaking, what he did in the past has little to do with what he is doing now, at least in terms of his turning from the behavior and his taking responsibility for the mistakes. I am, and we should all be more than willing to work past his past mistakes. I mean, for crying out loud, Paul used to murder Christians, Peter denied Jesus when it really counted, and the Wesley brothers were sent packing to England with their tails between their legs.
The question should not be “What mistakes did he make in the past?” But rather, “What is he doing and saying right now and how has he taken responsibility for the past?” Is the love-child taken care of or does Bryant pretend the child is not there? I don’t know. But that would be a question of interest. )
I hate when people does what Jude verse.8 says:likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yes, this pertains to what was said……”…Paul used to murder Christians, Peter denied Jesus…..”
First of all Paul was blameless when it came to Moses’ law (Phil.3:6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, BLAMELESS) you make Paul seem like his was a sinner and then….one day….he’s a man of God. The Lord says through Paul in 1 Tim.3 that a Bishop must FIRST be blameless (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever)…I do not know of anyone in the bible that was a sinner first and then changed their life around and became Apostles, Prophets and teacher. (that only rings true with the false preachers that have been drug dealers, or have done drugs, etc. and they twist these True Men of God into ordinary people just like them to gain believers)
Which Jude goes on to say in verse 10 but these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know NATURALLY, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.)
Also that statement would make what John said in 1 John 3:6-10 a lie; which says: Whosoever abides in him sins not: whosoever sins has not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God DOES NOT commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.
Or Paul lied in 2 Tim.2:6 when he said: The husbandman that labors must be FIRST partaker of the fruits. The bible is too strait; people like to add a little wiggle room to it. That is why he said the way to heaven is narrow and strait is the gate….If the Lord says Paul was righteous then he was righteous. People say the bible is not completely accurate but, as powerful as the Lord is….why would He not make sure everyone had access to The Truth…….then his judgment would not be just. It is far better to not even use them for those types of examples.
We just know that they are not right because the bible tells us how we can tell who is false and who is not. When we get into other things then we start getting into gray areas when we need to leave it black and white………
Paul was righteous according to the LAW …….OUTWARD conformity. If Paul was SINLESS before Christ’s sacrifice,then he didn’t NEED a Saviour.
Tell me, was it a sin for the Jewish leaders to persecute Jesus?? Was it a sin for Herod to persecute Jesus?? Was it a sin for Pilate to persecute Jesus?? Was it a sin for the Roman soldiers to persecute Jesus??
Of course it was, since Jesus said this from the Cross:
“Father, FORGIVE THEM.” Persecuting Christ is a sin. Who ELSE persecuted Christ??
“Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou Me??” Now,was it NOT a sin for Saul to persecute Christ,but it was a sin for OTHERS to persecute Christ??
Righteousness according to the Law is OUTWARD conformity. All Paul was saying is that he zealously conformed to the Law. But the Bible says some interesting things about righteousness through conformity to the Law.
Act 13:39 And by him (Jesus) all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could NOT be justified by the law of Moses.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.
Gal 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Gal 3:11 But that no man (Including Paul) is justified by the law in the sight of God, [it is] evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
You can be blameless and righteous in following the Law………problem is, that doesn’t make you righteous before God,because NO ONE is righteous before God through the Law.
Even Paul says he was not righteous before God even though he was righteous according to the Law (because as the Bible makes clear, by the Law NO MAN IS RIGHTEOUS BEFORE GOD).
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God (ALL means ALL and includes PAUL who WROTE this);
Paul wrote this too………Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while WE (Paul includes HIMSELF) were yet SINNERS, Christ died for US (Paul includes himself AGAIN as a sinner before Christ died).
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me (Paul)
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I (PAUL) am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my (Paul’s) members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me (Paul) into captivity to the law of sin which is (present tense) in my members.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded ALL (Including the author here, PAUL) under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
1Ti 1:15 This [is] a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I (PAUL!!) am CHIEF.
Wanna tell us again how Paul was sinless?? That Paul was righteous before God by following the Law when PAUL HIMSELF states NUMEROUS TIMES that NO ONE was EVER righteous before God through following the Law?? Paul includes HIMSELF among sinners DOZENS of times. What Bible do you read??
He has never introduced the other love child so I guess you could say, he acts as if the chile does not exist. I realize what happened in the past is in the past, but he parades his wife and their children all over the place and refuses to even acknowledge the child that caused them to break up before their wedding. He does acknowledge Topaz, who is from a previous relationship, but what about the other/others??????
Not trying to start a gossip mill or anything but exactly how many children are you stating that Dr. Bryant has. I thought it was only two.
(Melvin’s Note: Don’t know. And it isn’t that important. Gospel Toady mentioned a child specifically. That was the only reason I mentioned it. I suggest we stay away from “how many, when, and names.” They are not the issue. Th important considerations are: what does he teach, how does he caer for the sheep? )
Why do you condemn? What are you doing to save or lift up the people? We all talk the talk, but do we walk the walk? If your are so concerned about the pulpit pimps why don’t you expound on your own doctrine? It sounds like player hating to me. If people can follow what’s leading us now, how can you sit back and talk about something that everyone has to decide for themselves? It is enough lies out there for you to get into the struggle. Some people are meant to run with the “Big Dogs” as you say.
I’m still waiting for Melvin to tell us about his visit to the Empowerment Temple.
(Melvin’s Note: This evening (1 February) as soon as I get home. )
I think the problem is: You want to be a so called “Pimp”
So lets just say you get a mega following of people (lol) does that make you a Pimp? So many people hate on Pastor Bryant, and for what? If you don’t like what he teaches and preaches, than ok you don’t have to follow him, but it seems as if you are. You are seeking to destroy, just like the devil!!!!! Seems as if you are so called educated, sound like you came from a good background. Why waste your God given talents on destroying, what there is so much a lack of: STRONG POSITIVE BLACK MEN.!!!!You should have been told if you don’t have anything good to say, than don’t say anything at all.
The power of life and death is in the tounge. Stop watching, what others say, and watch what you say, and who you say it about. The one you try to destroy may in fact be the key to your destiny. They say God works in ways unseen. You were right when you said hearts need to change, from the inside. Whoever has the wrong intentions, let the carry that burden. Stop seeking to destroy, by name dropping and putting doubt in the minds of others. All the effort and money it cost you to keep a negative website going could be well spent teaching and preaching to the youth who really need to hear a positive word, or have a positive role model in there lives. Teach them how to be successful in your eye, the way you think it should be taught! Then you comment, editorals and opinions won’t be in vain!
Why make this personal? The gospel is at stake. Can you honestly tell all of us on this forum that Jamal Bryant preaches the one and true gospel of grace and faith? Does he unfold the word of God line upon line and precept upon precept? From what I have heard, Dr. Bryant does none of the above. He wrenches scripture from its moorings and twists the meaning for personal motivation outside of biblical holiness. Who can really be saved by his preaching?
I personally feel that Jamal has been deceived by all the material wealth and now preaches a gospel of prosperity and materialism. He’s a run away train that is about to crash leaving a lot of casulties
Anyomous,
I don’t think there are many causalities resulting from his teachings. People with “itchy ears” gravitate towards this heresy. If Jamal repented and began to preach the true Gospel people would merely leave his Church for another pimp. He would then be left with a remnant of “true” believers. The only casualties in this heretical teaching are self induced.
Kyle
I am a former member of a black mega church and a current agnostic (and, I might add, a rather happy one). I know this is controversial but I think these issues should be seriously and rigorously studied along the lines suggested by Daniel Dennet, author of Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon.
(MN: Be my guest. But why should I study them along those lines? By the way, I don’t think your suggestion is particularly controversial. I simply disagree with it.
I used to be an agnostic. I almost got enough of a backbone to become an atheist. Fortunately God gave me even more backbone and I became a Christian.
Please understand that I consider the agnostic a coward - too chicken to commit to one or the other. But of course, that’s just my opinion. )
Marvin,
May I suggest that you sincerely seek the Lord. I would erase any preconceived notions of “church” if you know what I mean and humbly seek the Lord. Don’t let the liars and hypocrites of “religion” keep you from the truth. Don’t let a building, man with a collar, large cross, Big picture of Jesus, a tall steeple, or “churchy” people prevent you from seeking the truth. Seek Jesus and fellowship with the true remnant. Marvin, Jesus is real and he is risen and seated next to the Father. I would really hope for you to humbly get on your knees and repent and ask Jesus into your heart. No “churchy” stuff just the plain truth Brother.
Kyle
Look, Preachers come a dime a dozen. I mean these guys are defintitely gifted. They can motivate people, but so can a pep rally.
The character of a man is what makes him great, not his image or church size. If we read the Bible we can see that some of these cats are walking in direct contradiction to it.
Divorce is on the rise in the pulpit, Infidelity is prevalent in the pulpit. Do you just look over it. Look, theres nothing wrong with have a large ministry. Jesus had thousands following him at one point. But he fed them. Moses led a nation. That’s not the issue. But God reveals and punishes hypocracy and carnality. I dont care how you put, you have got to live the life and teach the Bible.
D,
If you mean “preachers who preach things other than what is contained in scripture” come a dime a dozen, then I would say yes. However, true preachers who preach the true gospel don’t. But I understand what you mean concerning the life and character of one who professes to be a leader of the sheep…It should line up with the qualifications stated in 1 Timothy 3 and Titus 1. By the way, in my reading of the qualifications for bishops, elders and deacons, it doesn’t appear to list “gifting to speak” or “oratory skill” within the requirements. A great deal of what I’ve witnessed over the years has been someone having “oratory ability” to excite and motivate the crowd, prompting the so called “pastors” to put that person up in ministry simply because of the natural gifting to speak or to pontificate words eloquently. It’s evident from scripture (1 Corinthians 2:1-3) that this was not the apostle Paul’s modus operandi. One could argue that this may be the case with JHB, since no doubt he has the “gift of gab” when it comes to using certain words and phrases, but the doctrine he teaches and the substance of his sermons is worth just about as much as what I flushed down the toilet this morning…Maybe this can be discussed in another thread, but does it seem to you that one of the problems may be that these “preachers” take having a natural gifting as meaning that they are “called” to deliver the gospel and lead God’s people as opposed to the call to be a suffering bondservant to Christ, which is the true validation of ministry? Let me know your thoughts brother D…Anyways, I enjoyed your comment…and Mel, if that would take too much bandwidth or is better suited to be discussed elsewhere, then I understand if you refrain from posting it…
Soli Deo Gloria,
R4C
D,
I originally had an issue with the statement “preachers come a dime a dozen.” All the preachers I know are noble men. (men) We don’t steal form the church, cheat on our wives, or have illegitimate babies within the congegation. We drive ordinary cars, and some of us, like me, have to work other jobs to make ends meet. I just want to be clear that you are making a distinction between the little guys out there like me who gave up a lucrative job in the private sector to follow Christ, and people who have turned following Christ into a lucrative job. One more point: people are not finding bible preaching churches because they are looking at the outside of the building, and how many cars are in the parking lot, and what kind of facilities there are. (”white-washed tombs”, many of them) The pimps are not only leading the sheeple astray, but they are damaging the clergy as well. (If I misunderstood you, I am sorry)
Well. I sit here and i read these comments. The first one of you with-out sin please cast the first stone.
(MN: You mean like you are doing right now? Surely you can’t sit there and tell me that I am wrong for telling folks that these guys are wrong. This appears to be a variation of judging me for apparently judging someone else. )
We all have many issues in our lives. The one thing that each us should be concern about is our own relationship with God,Jesus,The Holy Spirit. For those of you who have already arrived and has press to the Mark of the High Calling with no Sin . open your mouth. Can we pray one for another? can we pray for restoration? can we LOVE as Christ has loved us. Know GOD for yourself.
D.Humphrey
(MN: Your comment sound really pious, really spiritual and forgiving. Unfortunately you completely miss the point and are enabling the pimps rather than protecting and helping the sheeple. You are the ones who keep the pimps prospering. Go back, read section that you and so many other pimp enablers are so fond of and read it in context. Either that or explain why Paul tells us we should be willing and able to judge error and to identify the pimps. )
D.Humphrey,
You said:
We all have many issues in our lives. The one thing that each us should be concern about is our own relationship with God,Jesus,The Holy Spirit.
Ok, on a personal level that is a fair statement. However, a PIMP is claiming to be a Preacher, Teacher, or Pastor. If these Pied Pipers are leading people off a cliff don’t you think they ought to get warned? YOU make it seem like we are all saying we are perfect. Let me be the first to say I AM NOT. These topics are mutually exclusive from the idea of throwing stones. These Pimps are leading people astray. I don’t understand how people can come here and make the Pimps look like the victim and try to make us look like we are the ones doing the stoning. This is crazy. We are WARNING THE SHEEPLE. WAKE UP!
Kyle
Hello, D.Humphrey:
I am taking this opportunity to spend some of my time - which I will never get back, as I draw ever nearer to the great beyond - to respond to your statement, and I quote you, sir: “[t]he first one of you with-out sin please cast the first stone.”
Firstly, have you actually read John 8: 2-11?
Secondly, if you have read the scenario, you certainly realized that those naughty Pharisees were attempting to paint my Lord and Savior into a “logic” corner (good luck!).
Thirdly, did you know that in order to make a prima facie case of adultery, the Pharisees would need to produce the adulterer. Please refer to Leviticus 20:10.
I have a feeling, that you, D.Humphrey, need to obtain a Bible, and quit spouting.
By the way, I am a sinner, but apparently not the sinner that the Apostle Paul admitted to be: This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. - 1 Timothy 1:15.
How about you, Humphrey, are you a sinner?