Melvin

But why did David give a burnt offering at that place? I’m sure a pastor you heard used this as some spiritualized text in order that you do something so you can get something. I want you to read the whole chapter, not just that text and see why David did what He did in 1 Chronicles 21. Like someone said before read the Scriptures surrounding the text. You tithe, that’s great, let me ask you this. Do you think that you give all the time out of the cheerfulness of your heart? Or do you do it because you feel mandated to give? If you give 10%, but do it because you feel obligated, and I give 7%, but I do it out of cheerfulness, who do you think God will be pleased with more?

(Melvin’s Note: Agreed. But that isn’t what the pimps or Salomon are saying. )

Chris show me where in Scripture it says to pray for those who blaspheme the Word of God.

1 Timothy 1:18-20
“18This charge I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, 19holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith, 20among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme. ”

2 JOHN 10-11

10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, 11for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.

Jeremiah 8:8-12

“8″How can you say, ‘We are wise,
and the law of the LORD is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
has made it into a lie.
9The wise men shall be put to shame;
they shall be dismayed and taken;
behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD,
so what wisdom is in them?
10Therefore I will give their wives to others
and their fields to conquerors,
because from the least to the greatest
everyone is greedy for unjust gain;
from prophet to priest,
everyone deals falsely.
11They have healed the wound of my people lightly,
saying, ‘Peace, peace,’
when there is no peace.
12Were they ashamed when they committed abomination?
No, they were not at all ashamed;
they did not know how to blush.
Therefore they shall fall among the fallen;
when I punish them, they shall be overthrown,
says the LORD. ”

Ezekiel 13:1-9

“1The word of the LORD came to me: 2″Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, who are prophesying, and say to those who prophesy from their own hearts: ‘Hear the word of the LORD!’ 3Thus says the Lord GOD, Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing! 4Your prophets have been like jackals among ruins, O Israel. 5You have not gone up into the breaches, or built up a wall for the house of Israel, that it might stand in battle in the day of the LORD. 6They have seen false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘Declares the LORD,’ when the LORD has not sent them, and yet they expect him to fulfill their word. 7Have you not seen a false vision and uttered a lying divination, whenever you have said, ‘Declares the LORD,’ although I have not spoken?”
8Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “Because you have uttered falsehood and seen lying visions, therefore behold, I am against you, declares the Lord GOD. 9My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and who give lying divinations. They shall not be in the council of my people, nor be enrolled in the register of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.”

Yahweh is the one who condemns False teachers and prophets, not I says the cat….Also, if you read what I wrote, I did pray for them, but they only got worst, so I figured it was prophecy coming to past…

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Cynthia, show me in Scripture where it says I have to pray for a Heretic? Scripture tell me to expose them and warn others about them.

Romans 16:17-18
“17I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. 18For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.”

You also make an assumption that makes you look bad. Do you know that I never prayed for this person? I’ve prayed for the Heretics that are pointed out on this sight, but they are getting no better, therefore I figured it was prophecy and nothing I could pray to stop. I’m not hurting no one if they are fake, I’m bringing to the knowledge that they are indeed fake. People like to pat people on their back when their wrong, but I’d rather rebuke them and show them their error. I actually consider myself more of a distant friend of these guys then actually trying to hurt them. I don’t know them personally, but I do see that their teachings is erroneous and full of damdable heresies, so I react as one trying to snatch them out of the fire.

Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

So, if a friend hurts you, only know that the friend only wants what’s best for you. However when people like yourself, continue to pat them on their backs so they can tell you what you want to hear, you are really crippling them further away from the Truth.

So who’s the real friend here?

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Salomon is so caught up in Heretic Teachings that Man has taekn the place of God in his/her life. Instead of defending the Gospel this person defends a mere man. Their focus is obviously off, but instead of questioning and studying the word, this person more than likely studies Heretic Teaching, then applies that to their life.

Melvin, you and I know that it’s going to take a sovereign intervention of God before this person sees the Truth of Christ. They will only go back and forth with you with no appeal to Scripture, but only with vain babblings and cliches that their Heretic Teacher taught them.

Unfortunately, these Heretics/Pimps are teaching their followers to rebuke anybody who comes against what Pastor says, so anytime they are presented with Truth, they react in ignorance instead of actually being open minded and considering what Scripture says. I’ve had all the headaches I can take beating a dead horse and am just resorting more to Prayer then Head knowledge….However, I Love this site for bringing Light to the Darkness…

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Melvin

(Melvin’s Note: And it leads me to say “NO more postings for you! At least not if you continue to say the really silly and pointless things you are saying. )

As a matter of fact, I am coming out with a book titled, “Aquire the Fire”. In this book I detail events that took place leading up to my deliverance of drugs and alcohol. The Lord clearly used TBN and INSP as his powertools to get me out of the pits of hell. Creflo Dollar has such wisdom, TD Jakes “Spellbreaker” is awesome, Juanita Bynum ministered to me when I was being tormented by demons. A man named Zachary Tims announced in advance Gods Grace and Favor upon my life. Steve Munsey brought to my attention the “Passover” Angel. And finally Morris Cerullo brought the anointing that broke the yoke. These are the Lords Army. Jesus is our Commander in Chief, we are the soldiers. WE SHOUT WITH THE VOICE OF TRIUMPH!!!!!!!

How is the church ever going to conquer this world with so much division. Even Satan’s kingdom is not divided. Who causes such division among the church except Satan. Disorder is the work of the enemy. My bible says “Let everything be done decently and in order.” We shall know the truth and truth shall make us free.

(Melvin’s Note: Just so you understand, this fellow is what the pimps produce. Not vibrant, faith-filled followers of Christ, rightly handling the Word of God. Did you also notice this fellow is involved with almost every big name pimp out there? Spiritually, it’s as if he is a racehorse that has been hobbled. The longer the pimps are unopposed with the truth, the more people will be reduced to this. )

A MIRACLE. I beleive God works through these men and women, AS LONG AS THE PERSON IS WALKING WITH THE LORD (as I am). Since my Deliverance in March 2005, I have absolutely flourished in the word of God.

(Melvin’s Note: As before, I am certainly happy that you have escaped the underside of the world. But also again, to give credit for God’s graciousness to these pimps and pimpetes. Give attention to the word, which they regularly denie with their own brand of the gospel. Judge what they say, not what they claim God is doing through them. )

(Melvin’s Note: What are you - a Voodoo lady or something? You’re making yourself look rather foolish. And if you don’t have something a little more rational to say, as entertaining as your last several posts have been, I will have to ban you from the comments area. )

(MN: Concerned, don’t worry too much about that. The reader (he or she is probably new to the site) has probably not read enough of the site to understand that holding to a doctrine you or I may disagree with doesn’t make a person a pimp. From what I could tell, the reader objected to the Eternal Security view Stanley has and I agree with. The reader was stating his own opinion, not that of this site

I think the Stanley commentor thought he was being slick and slipping something past me. I find it kind of amusing. Definitely nothing to get upset about. )

I pray that the Lord will open your heart to the truth concerning what you do. You offer your readers warnings without direction. This is not a balanced work. I understand and agree with your desire for the saints to be aware that there are those that teach and live in error. Yet I disagree with your method to warn. (Melvin’s Note: It is in keeping with Scripture. What is to disagree with? )If the warning that you are now sounding were given to you of the Lord, the delivery would also line up with word. (Melvin’s Note: I give the readers direction - turn away from the pimps, don’t support the pimps, read your Bible for yourself, read the works of orthodox teachers from the past and the present, etc, etc. But again, I do not have followers. I push the Bible and many people who visit the site agree with my approach. They are not following me. )

The writer David W. tried to give you the word and you resisted it. (MN: Not at all. I told him that if he wants to pray, pray. If he wants to get a bunch of people on the web to praya nd fast with hin, then start a site and put the list and schedule out there. If the other readers want to pray, they can pray. If they want to work up some kind of joint time, they can exchange e-mail addresses and set something up. Again, this site is here for one thing, to warn. ) In fact I That is frightening since the very things that you are warning others to avoid you are now doing, and that is disobedience to the word. (MN: Which word am I disobeying? David W’s or the Bible. If I am disobeying the Bible, please show me where, in context. ) It is not sufficient enough for you to say that your work is not to pray and intercede but to warn. (MN: Try to get it right. I didn’t say this. I said the site is not here to provide prayer lists and coordinate prayers. If you want to do that [since you feel so strongly about it] then do it. As I have said in a previous comment, it is easy enough to tell a person who is doing something what they should do. It’s much more difficult to get off your sanctimonious can and actually DO something. I suggest you put your actions where your mouth is or stop cluttering up the bandwidth with empty words. ) If you will not pray nor intercede then don’t warn.

Don’t be deceived to think that you don’t have followers either. Those that listen to you will follow the things that you share. (MN: They are generally grounded enough in Scripture that it will be only the things that are consistent with Scripture. I don’t see a problem with that. ) It is the make up of God’s creation to follow. It is the order of God that all will follow and lead, the question is who or what will you follow and how will you lead?

I pray, for your souls sake that you will not allow a false balance to be your destruction. If you truly desire God to use you to make a difference then allow Him to make that difference in you first. Give those that you speak to, the tools that they need to make a difference.

I myself have suffered under the hand of those who have ministered and spoke in error. It was very difficult for me. But God healed and restored me and strengthened me to be able to forgive. Now He uses me to restore, warn and teach others that they will not be deceived. Most importantly to help them that they will learn the power of forgiveness.

If you can not forgive, God cannot use you to restore (not even those that have been victim of this abuse). You will end up causing more harm and discord in the body. I pray that this will not be received in any other way except in the love of Christ.