I keep telling all of you who will listen, that the Band of Brothers and Sisters in the “Full Gospel” circles are out for themselves. They do and say what ever will lift them up. They don’t care about following Jesus Christ in spirit or in truth. They don’t give a rat’s tail of attention to the ESSENTIALS of the faith. Their only criteria for evaluating a religious personality is to see how much money they can bring in to the organization and how much the personality’s appearance will help their attendance. Here’s a posting on Bynum from earlier this year. A case in point: Prophetess Juanita Bynum Reeks — I mean Weeks. And notice who she associates with.
While I have never heard Prophetess Juanita (PJ) deny the doctrine of the Trinity, she hangs with folks who proudly and loudly deny the Trinity and those who talk extensive double talk to avoid being identified in one camp or the other. The blokes who come to mind immediately are Noel Jones and T. Dexter Jakes. You’ve heard Dexter as he does the Texas two-step in his non-explanation. If not, click here and give a listen.
This time she uses people’s sincere desire for a meaningful relationship with their husbands or wives to pass off one of the pimps yet again. Take a look at the ad and tell me who you see tucked away in the right-hand corner of the ad. That’s right! It’s Noel Jones!! If she is Oneness, why not say so? Most of you are going to be to dull to even care one way of the other. If she is not Oneness, why in the world would she promote a fellow who denies one of the most essential doctrines of Christianity?
On the other hand, I wouldn’t expect her to be too consistent or stable. She also hangs out with a fellow who has identified himself as a prophet. And that fellow would be the weasel from Lansing Michigan, Phillip Owens.
Give a look at some of his shenanigans. The first picture is him dressed up like the Jewish High Priest and blowing a shofar, or ram’s horn. And no, I don’t believe this is just a reenactiment of some kind. The last person I saw doing that was Belloq (you can see a picture of him and the other bad guys below) after he stole the Ark of the Covenant from Indiana Jones. Of course, he got tagged by some pretty nasty critters when all was said and done.
But look, it’s not bad enough that this bozo pulls Old Testament ceremonies into the Church, he even gets PJ involved in it. Take a look at the next picture. Who do you think that is laid out on the steps of the podium? That’s right. It’s PJ Bynum.
Of course, perhaps he called her out of the crowd and she doesn’t really support what he’s doing. You think? How would you explain the fact that she interviewed him on TBN (Terrible, Bad, and Noxious).
I understand how Elisha felt when he was talking to the Israelites and was telling them not to be halt between two choices. If doctrine is important then make decisions on based on doctrine. If doctrine is not important, then go with that.
The way things are going, it shouldn’t make any difference if the person preaching is a Jehovah’s Witness, a Mormon, or a Hindu. Apparently, the only things we have to consider are: How anointed is the speaker and how anointed is the message they give?
And if that is the sole determiner, then let’s kick this circus open and get more people into the church to share their dynamic messages. I mean, Calypso Louie (excuse me, I should call him Louis Farrakhan) does a better job of using Scripture than most of the pulpit pimps I know. And he’s honest enough to admit that he has no relationship with Jesus Christ. Yet people like Grainger Browning STILL associate with him, invite him to speak to the congregations, and call themselves mature Christians. Let’s the rest of you invite him out to speak at some of our services. Cornell West, foul-mouthed philosopher that he is, has a dynamic speaking ability. Let’s have him in too. After all Tony Compollo comes in and drops an expletive or two all the time. Why stop there? Why not invite a follower of L. Ron Hubbard. I hear Dianetics can really improve your life and give you the right attitude to have riches flowing into your life. And isn’t that the objective according to the Word Faith pimps and pimpettes?
You need to see that the pimps don’t really care about doctrine. They just don’t want to get called out by you when they ignoregood doctrine or teach faulty doctrine. And one of the ways they can avoid getting caught, is if they can convince you to stop looking, or at least stop speaking about it. And it really is working. Some of you out there say, almost as a knee-jerk reaction, such things as what this dear and probably very sincere lady said:
I do believe that Ms. Bynum IS a true prophet of God. God has given her magnificent prophetic insight and she has an extraordinary gift for prophetic writing. Although I believe that she is a true prophet of God….that does not mean I believe that she is entirely perfect and without flaws. She is human and she is just as capable of making a bad business decision as anyone else. When I say business decision I am referring to her decision to get on TBN asking for money.
As Romans says: “Take notice of those who teach another gospel.” That means you can’t pretend they are not teaching heresies or that people who point them out are being mean, vicious, and divisive.
If Juanita Bynum Weeks were a “true” prophetess of God, she wouldn’t be on TBN.
Proof: Luke 6:22
Instead of being hated, and a reproach, instead of being separated from their company and her name cast out as being evil for the Son of Man’s sake, these false teachers have embraced her. And she has accepted them, else she would cry out against that foolish “Word-Faith/ Prosperity garbage” that they teach!
God’s Word would be in her heart as a burning fire! And when she open’s up her mouth, out of her belly would flow correction, reproof, and instruction in righteousness! No way! She couldn’t sit in the company/association of evil men/women “false teachers” who distort the gospel of Jesus Christ, and elevate their pride w/her god is taking you to another level junk, laughing, joking, and stroking their ego’s. Can two walk together accept they be agreed?
2 Corinthians 6:14-16 Be ye not “unequally” yoked together with unbelievers: For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what concord hath Christ with Be’-li-al? Or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what “agreement” hath the temple of God with idols?
Ephesians 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
The Holy Ghost declare’s:
Woe unto you when all men shall speak well of you! For so did their fathers to the false prophets.
In the love of the Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,
Deb
Melvin,
A church that I know of here in Indiana blows the shofar before every service. They also waive flags. Any trend or fad that the pimps and (in this case pimpettes) start seem to spread into all willing congregations. (”ho’s”) The really sad thing is is that if God truly had a word for those people, what are the chances that it would be exclusive only to PJ??? As if the pimps and pimpettes not only are the only ones hearing the word, but I guess they are the only ones able to recieve the “word” as well.
Melvin:
Just wanted you to know that I (and by extension, my family) keep up with this blog regularly. We have experienced a form of the ‘pimpery’ even in a start-up church recently! The pulpit pimps model is playing out all over Black America… so many gullible folk are available in abundance - not wanting to question the “man and woman of God” - it’s a shame!
Keep up the scholarship and vigilance. I am crafting something along the same lines to help expose this fraud. I’ll be in touch…
Thanks for the encouragement.
Rudy
The only thing I can say if these women and men, Prophetess Jaunita Bynum are Gods annointed then I pray that God has mercy on the ones that would touch them. Now, if God has touched your heart to speak a word into their lives and you know it without a shadow a doubt, then so be it. I might add that if and when God does choose someone to speak a word into someones life they most definately have to be walking in Jesus Christ love. Because then you know that you are truely speaking out of concern for ones soul than speaking to destroy of hurt that individaul which can be very costly. God says “TOUCH NOT HIS ANNOINTED”.
Christine,
The word God gave me (or anybody else on this site) to “speak into the lives of Juanita Bynum” or any of the other pimps is the WORD OF GOD. That seems really hard fro those who are being pimped to understand. The real curse doesn’t fall on the critics of the pimps, but the pimps themselves. (Gal. 1:9) It says if any “man” (a topic for “Preacher”) preaches another Gospel, they should be accursed. That is what this website is all about!! Pimps and pimpettes claiming to be prophets, declare a “word ” from the Lord that is supposed to be superior to scripture. Then, without testing their words in light of scripture (1John 4:1), the pimped, (ho’s) automatically assume the word is genuine. Christine, you show me one place in scripture that is says to give your last money to TBN, Daystar, or the Bynum-Weeks 5th Anniversary Wedding Memorial Fund, and I’ll touch god’s anointed never more!
amen!
There is a paper that I put together that deals with tithing. Is there a way to post it on your site? I am not that familiar with computers.
God bless
The World Would Love It’s Own:
Here we go again! There are billboards plastered all over metro/suburban Atlanta announcing the return of the “WORLD’S” most famous prophetess, none other than the fabulous Mrs.Juanita Bynum Weeks, III., to the Georgia Dome for “her” The Threshing Floor Conference” April 5th - 8th, 2006.
2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
In the love of Jesus Christ,
Deb
Hello everyone, I find it quit interesting to hear all these commits. You know, it seems that we are quick to judge these so called messengers of God. I think you can tell by ones fruits that he/she produces to know if they are for real or not and it seems like peoples lives are supernatuarally changing because of the obedience of these so called false prophets. Since we as christians already have a place in heaven aren’t we suppose to go after the ones that are not written in the “Book of Life.” The point is, peoples lives are changing and they are being fed the Word of God. Didn’t the disciples also question this as well when they complained to Jesus that someone was casting out demons in His(Jesus) name. Jesus told them as long as he is using His name(giving God the Glory) he is without sin. I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong.
(Melvin’s Note: Remember what the issue is here. The men and women featured on this site do one or more of three things. 1) They teach heresies (e.g. Jesus had to suffer in hell for our sins because His death on the cross wasn’t enough), not the Word of God, 2) They associate with men and women who teach heresies, 3) They are mostly about getting money from and living off of, the sheep. Jesus’ reference to the people casting out demons in his name does not fall into any of these categories. Unless you want to say that Jesus was supporting dishonest men. Looking at it a different way, in terms of changed lives, you suggest that if lives changed, then the “ministry” is validated. Let’s see: Tina Turner used to live a wild and crazy life. She became a Buddhist and now lives a sober, more thoughtful life. However, she rejects the Jesus of the Bible. Many young Black men, strung out on drugs, headed for an early death, accept the teachings of Louis Farrakhan and turn their lives around. Yet they reject the teachings of Jesus Christ. Though these have good results in people’s lives, do you really believe they are valid expressions of Godliness? Remember, the Jesus most of these pulpit pimps preach isn’t the Jesus of the Bible. It is another Jesus altogether. )
You are so pitiful. I can’t believe that you would get on the internet and speak ill of these men and women of God. Your doctrine is the doctrine of devils ESPECIALLY if your “rebuke” is out of disdain for individuals as people. Don’t forget that our ministry is that of reconciliation, and if these dear brothers or sisters have fallen short of the TRUE WORD of God, your antics will only light their fire. You motivate the enemy rather than stifle him. If you attack these SOULS the way you do, does it truly change anything? God demands forgiveness and you spit venemous hatred. You don’t see what happens behind the scene sir. You see the methods they use, but why not take advantage of modern technology to promote the word of God, you do it supposedly, I mean you have an internet blog. He that regards hatred in his heart the Lord will not hear him. You probably think of it as righteous indignation, but I see it as jealous and maliciousness. Get a life. GO WITNESS or something, otherwise take a nap.
(Melvin’s Note: So how come it’s the defenders of the pimpettes who come across as the most hateful and meanest? Remember people, I’m not trying to change the pimps and the pimpettes. It’s not my job. At this point in their lives, nothing short of a move of God on their lives is going to cause them to move. That is why you should pray for them. My job is to warn those of you out there who are following them since most of you don’t seem to have a clue with respect to what scripture actually says. )
You’re just too sensitive, that’s all. You need a thicker layer of skin. Sorry if i hurt your feelings LOL. HOLLA
(Melvin’s Note: Believe me, you didn’t hurt my feelings. )
Hello,
I am new to your site and am reading it pretty objectively. I have also shared it with others as there are some very interesting viewpoints shared here.
I notice that you count Bishop Noel Jones among those that preach Oneness as opposed to the Trinity. Admittedly, the term Oneness is quite new to me, but I do vividly recall Bishop Jones teaching on the Trinity on more than one occasion. I am a former member of the church he pastors and have witnessed quite a few lessons on the subject. Not being familiar (yet) with all that the term Oneness encompasses, I’m not here to debate the matter, but wanted to share my knowledge in fairness to Bishop Jones.
Thank you.
ReservingMyPrivacy,
Fair enough. If you can find some documentation to clear him of being Oneness, I would be more than happy to post it. Of course, your memory or someone else’s opinion don’t make the cut.
Melvin
Hi Melvin,
I can send you a tape of him teaching on the Trinity. Will that suffice? Finding printed documentation, or having the tape transcribed, would take more time and energy for me.
Thanks!
(Melvin’s Note: Not a problem. I will send you my mailing address. Thanks )
Hello,
I have been to this site a number of times to read the comments and it is a shame to know so many confessing Christians are not on watch. In these latter days the confessed Saints are looking up to these so called super star Christians. Why? There is no such thing. We all should be looking to Jesus and Him alone because it is all about JESUS!! I’m so glad God has opened my eyes to the False Teachers of today and I mean false. Check out the fruit (Matthew 7:15-23), yes, they do miracles and wonderful works . The Word of God warns us over and over again about false teachers. God teaches how to discern them and what to do about it when we do come in contact with them ( II Timothy 4: 1-5). I have pulled out a number of scriptures relating to this topic, the list goes on and on Old and New Testament. We must study our Bibles Saints (II Timothy 2:15). It is all in the Word!!
Discernment
Matthew 7:15-23 - Fruit, bad fruit, rotten to the core. They are lying saying God said, God said , when He didn’t. God does not beg anyone for anything. They all ( false teachers ) beg, and I mean literally beg, for money.
Prophesying falsely. We all should be able to discern this. God said, God said you do this He will do that. Did God send them to beg you?Jeremiah 29: 8- 9. Give $1,000 and I will give you …..Is this of God? Did God really say that? Please! Does the prophecy come to pass? II Thessalonians 2:9 - 12 vs. 9 “lying wonders.”
No faith. If one has to beg like that, they are not trusting God. Proverbs 3: 5-6. The Word of God says, “…..whatever is not of faith is sin” Romans 14:23.
Apostasy- II Timothy 3 and 4. We shouldn’t be so surprised or shocked when someone turns away from the faith, it is in the Bible.
Another Gospel. Adding and taking away from God’s Word. Revelation 22:15, 18-19.
I can go on and on concerning discernment.
What to do once the False Prophet is revealed.
Ephesians 5:6- 15. vs.7 “Be not ye, therefore, partakers with them.”
II Timothy- 4: 1- 5. vs. 2 ” Preach the word, be diligent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long- suffering and doctrine.”
Jude 17- 23. vs. 23 “……pulling them out of the fire.”
The false teachers are all in agreement, think about it they are not going to go against eachother. Amos 3:3 ” Can two walk together, except they agreed?”
Saints, we need to wake up and stop slumbering. We will perish in our lack of knowledge or ignorance. There is no excuse, if we read just one Scripture and spend 2 mins. in God’s presence we would know the things that are not of God. He will reveal it to us. Let us spend more time studying His Word and communing with Him. He loves spending time with us!!!
Hosea 4:6
Blessings to all,
Barbara
P.S. Melvin, sorry if I wrote too much.
Melvin’s Note: Not at all. It just shows you are as crazy and paranoid as I am. )
It’s good to acknowledge wolves among sheep. From Pres. Bush, Jakes, Dollar, Bryant, Osteen, Chuck Stanley (eternal security), Graham (ecumencal mover and shaker), these men need to be exposed. “Mark them that cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine you have learned: AND AVOID THEM.”
I guess the next question would be: When does the prayer and fasting start? (MN: Whenever you want it to. Go to your local church and set something up. ) I ask because I didn’t notice the link for “prayer list” on the site. Are we praying or just “saying?” When does “Pulpit Pimps” write out a prayer list and designate a time for as many as would, to interceed and carry this load? If we touch and agree Jesus said He’d answer, right? It IS our resposibility to do this and not JUST TALK about these guys. (MN: Pulpit-pimps.org isn’t going to write out a prayer list. You guys aren’t some mind-numbed robots who need me to tell you what to and when to pray. Look at the the categories to the right. Pray for them. Fast when God would have you to fast, when God moves you to. Go to your pastor, or other Christians and see what you can do. Don’t expect me to tell you what to do or how to do it. You seem to have mistaken me for one of the pimps. )
The distiction between the accuser (i.e. Satan) and a burden bearer is the intent and mission. Our intent isn’t only to tear down but to restore (i.e. the gospel of RECONCILIATION). (MN: The reconciliation applies between Christians. I seriously doubt the salvation of a man who would preaches the things these pimps preach and does the things these pimps do. ) Otherwise, there is no distiction. (MN: The site is not here to bear anyone’s burden. Additionally, the burden bearing takes place between Christians. Do you really think a man who teaches that Jesus had to BECOME God is a Christian? Remember, no man says Jesus is Lord except by the Spirit. These men are not saying that. ) )
Concerning Saul’s rebellion, Samuel wept for this guy even though God rejected him. Jesus wept over Jerusalem, the prophet-killing city. (MN: So weep for them. Pray for them to. Just don’t expect this site to play the role of intercessor. That is our individual tasks. Take the truth you get here to your local body [it’d be a good way of seeing who’s pimping you] and set up some time to pray for the people stuck in their organizations. But be ready for a surprise. Most aren’t going to want to admit these pimps are off-the-wall. As an example, John Jenkins refused to let us name names during the various Bible studies. It turned out he is a student of Jakes and teaches the same things as Copeland, Dollar, and Hickey. Go figure. )
Gal. 6:1 - Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. (MN: Simply praying for someone is not fulfilling this Scripture. Going to them, confronting them, in gentleness, and helping them to recover is. These men were not overtaken in a fault. They are wallowing in disobedience and heresy.)
We might not ever personally, approach any of these people to fulfill this responsibility, but we could fulfill this in prayer collectively, as bloggers, right? (MN: No. Go back to your local chuch and work through them. The Blogosphere offers no accountability what so ever. The local church is there for precisely that reason. )
“Lord deliver them that are ordained unto everlasting life from the yoke of deception, them that were predestined as intruments of wrath, root them out of the land.”
Much Love
Tell you what David. Register a site called http://www.prayforthepimps.org. I will give your name to my vastly overpriced webmaster and the two of you can work up a prayer and fasting list.
Remember, this site is here to warn, not to pray for.
Melvin
You need to just shut up. You do not have a clue of what you are saying. You seem to be full of jealousy and rebellion. Envy has blinded you to the truth. I know first hand that the TBN “Prophets and Apostles” are for real.
You are playing a foolish game.
It is written: Do not touch my anointed ones, and do my prophets no harm. (1 Chron. 16:22)
(Melvin’s Note: Thank you Salomon for the sensitive and well reasoned response. )
I sense an intense Antichrist spirit working in this arrogant website. I was a drug addict for 13 years. Morris Cerullo, TD Jakes, and Juanita Bynum were used of God during my deliverance. My breakthrough occured the night I sent $240.00 to Morris Cerullo. He said God would command an anointing upon me. A week later I was supernaturally delivered from Alcohol, Methamphetamine, and Cigerettes. I took Brother Cerullo’s prophetic word and OBEYED it. TD Jakes ministered to me through his “Spellbreaker” sermon. I am now serving God, through his Son Jesus Christ my Lord, by the power of the Holy Ghost. My deliverance took place the night I obeyed his prophet’s. 2 Chron.20:20 “Believe his prophets; and so shall ye prosper”.
(Melvin’s Note: Praise God almighty that you were delivered from what sounds like a truly miserable life. You cannot imagine my joy for you. I have had my own issues which God very graciously dealt with. But in all of that, recognize that Cerullo had nothing to do with your victory. God worked in your life, like the beggar at Gate Beautifu, because of His graciousness, not because of Cerullo’s ability to pimp you, or T. Dexter’s ability to milk you of money. And once you realize that, you will have to get ready, get ready, get ready! Because that is when you will truly begin to grow in the truth and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ rather than trying to bathe the broken cistern of Jakes and his fellow pimps.)
Just because your faith has failed you; dont drag other’s down to the pit of carelessness, rebellion, and unbelief. Your Antichrist mentality has reached heaven. May God have mercy on you and your followers (MN: The people who visist this site are not my followers. )
For the record : My first response was to the website. I am for Creflo, Jakes, Osteen, Popoff, Bynum, and the rest of the REAL Saints. Who is Melvin?
(Melvin’s Note: Melvin is a nobody trying to warn the average Christian about the pimps stadning by to take advantage of them. More exactly, click here . Who are you? )
MELVIN IS THE FOOL
(MN: Luvvy candidate #6 I do believe. )
What does Luvvy candidate #6 mean? The spirit of conviction will begin to invade your life beginning NOW; IN JESUS NAME
(Melvin’s Note: I’m not feeling much in the way of conviction, but I do have a little heartburn from the sausage and anchovey pizza I had earlier this evening. However, it’s good to see I have your attention. )
Salomon, click here.
If we would spend more time praying for men and women in ministry
and less time judging, the world would be a better place. All I know is that listening to TD Jake: tape of Talk me through it and Working in a hostle enviroment help me make it. I am not saying that I aggree with everything a preacher says but who does!! Soul are being save people are being set free, and God is the Judge!!!!!!!
Melvin,
I pray that the Lord will open your heart to the truth concerning what you do. You offer your readers warnings without direction. This is not a balanced work. I understand and agree with your desire for the saints to be aware that there are those that teach and live in error. Yet I disagree with your method to warn. (Melvin’s Note: It is in keeping with Scripture. What is to disagree with? )If the warning that you are now sounding were given to you of the Lord, the delivery would also line up with word. (Melvin’s Note: I give the readers direction - turn away from the pimps, don’t support the pimps, read your Bible for yourself, read the works of orthodox teachers from the past and the present, etc, etc. But again, I do not have followers. I push the Bible and many people who visit the site agree with my approach. They are not following me. )
The writer David W. tried to give you the word and you resisted it. (MN: Not at all. I told him that if he wants to pray, pray. If he wants to get a bunch of people on the web to praya nd fast with hin, then start a site and put the list and schedule out there. If the other readers want to pray, they can pray. If they want to work up some kind of joint time, they can exchange e-mail addresses and set something up. Again, this site is here for one thing, to warn. ) In fact I That is frightening since the very things that you are warning others to avoid you are now doing, and that is disobedience to the word. (MN: Which word am I disobeying? David W’s or the Bible. If I am disobeying the Bible, please show me where, in context. ) It is not sufficient enough for you to say that your work is not to pray and intercede but to warn. (MN: Try to get it right. I didn’t say this. I said the site is not here to provide prayer lists and coordinate prayers. If you want to do that [since you feel so strongly about it] then do it. As I have said in a previous comment, it is easy enough to tell a person who is doing something what they should do. It’s much more difficult to get off your sanctimonious can and actually DO something. I suggest you put your actions where your mouth is or stop cluttering up the bandwidth with empty words. ) If you will not pray nor intercede then don’t warn.
Don’t be deceived to think that you don’t have followers either. Those that listen to you will follow the things that you share. (MN: They are generally grounded enough in Scripture that it will be only the things that are consistent with Scripture. I don’t see a problem with that. ) It is the make up of God’s creation to follow. It is the order of God that all will follow and lead, the question is who or what will you follow and how will you lead?
I pray, for your souls sake that you will not allow a false balance to be your destruction. If you truly desire God to use you to make a difference then allow Him to make that difference in you first. Give those that you speak to, the tools that they need to make a difference.
I myself have suffered under the hand of those who have ministered and spoke in error. It was very difficult for me. But God healed and restored me and strengthened me to be able to forgive. Now He uses me to restore, warn and teach others that they will not be deceived. Most importantly to help them that they will learn the power of forgiveness.
If you can not forgive, God cannot use you to restore (not even those that have been victim of this abuse). You will end up causing more harm and discord in the body. I pray that this will not be received in any other way except in the love of Christ.
I like this site. I like what it teaches but there is one thing that I am concerned with. I saw a posting where someone named Charles Stanley a pimp. I personally like Charles and dont understand what makes him a pimp. He teaches directly from the Word of God and I NEVER hear him begging for money, what beliefs of his should I know that would make him a pimp candidate.
(MN: Concerned, don’t worry too much about that. The reader (he or she is probably new to the site) has probably not read enough of the site to understand that holding to a doctrine you or I may disagree with doesn’t make a person a pimp. From what I could tell, the reader objected to the Eternal Security view Stanley has and I agree with. The reader was stating his own opinion, not that of this site
Other than for language content, I don’t modify the contents of a visitor’s comments. And the lack of commentary on my part in no way implies I agree with the reader. For instance, I completely disagreed with Elizabeth’s recent comment. But I left it to you the visitors to react and respond. Some of the visitors make my job easy by showing you the very thing I write about.
I think the Stanley commentor thought he was being slick and slipping something past me. I find it kind of amusing. Definitely nothing to get upset about. )
There can be someone out there that is in bondage; he can be on the brink of deliverance, like I was. Through the five-fold ministry he would be given a prophetic word, like I was given. Through obedience, faith, and an act of faith, God would respond and heal this man, like I was. Satan would love to steal this word, to keep the man from being delivered. You can be used of the enemy to steal a prophetic word by all of your comments about todays Men and Women of God. Does not the word say it would be better to tie a stone to your neck and cast yourself to the sea than to offend a child of God
The spirit of conviction will begin to invade your life NOW; IN JESUS NAME
(Melvin’s Note: What are you - a Voodoo lady or something? You’re making yourself look rather foolish. And if you don’t have something a little more rational to say, as entertaining as your last several posts have been, I will have to ban you from the comments area. )
I just wanted your attention
Listen to this testimony: I received a letter from Peter Popoff on the last week of Nov.2005 He gave me a word. He said God was going to bless me. He said mark my calendar; on Dec.15th I would receive a money miracle. On Dec. 15th I checked my mail and to my surprise there were 8 checks totalling $4,664.00.
A MIRACLE. I beleive God works through these men and women, AS LONG AS THE PERSON IS WALKING WITH THE LORD (as I am). Since my Deliverance in March 2005, I have absolutely flourished in the word of God.
(Melvin’s Note: As before, I am certainly happy that you have escaped the underside of the world. But also again, to give credit for God’s graciousness to these pimps and pimpetes. Give attention to the word, which they regularly denie with their own brand of the gospel. Judge what they say, not what they claim God is doing through them. )
I overcame the Devil by the Blood of the Lamb(Jesus) and the word of my TESTIMONY. My testimony includes the miracle spoken by Brother Cerullo, the night I was a hopeless drug addict, when he said “ACT NOW”. It is written “No man should appear before the Lord empty handed” Deut. 16:16 I gave an offering. He said if I be set free, I will know his word came directly from God. I still have the sermon on VHS. I can always look back to that night. Four months later I was on a cruise ship being baptized in the Holy Spirit by Myles Munroe. And I have a picture of myself on that ship wearing a WHITE tuxedo. As the prodigle son that came home. My latest miracle included Peter Popoff.
As a matter of fact, I am coming out with a book titled, “Aquire the Fire”. In this book I detail events that took place leading up to my deliverance of drugs and alcohol. The Lord clearly used TBN and INSP as his powertools to get me out of the pits of hell. Creflo Dollar has such wisdom, TD Jakes “Spellbreaker” is awesome, Juanita Bynum ministered to me when I was being tormented by demons. A man named Zachary Tims announced in advance Gods Grace and Favor upon my life. Steve Munsey brought to my attention the “Passover” Angel. And finally Morris Cerullo brought the anointing that broke the yoke. These are the Lords Army. Jesus is our Commander in Chief, we are the soldiers. WE SHOUT WITH THE VOICE OF TRIUMPH!!!!!!!
How is the church ever going to conquer this world with so much division. Even Satan’s kingdom is not divided. Who causes such division among the church except Satan. Disorder is the work of the enemy. My bible says “Let everything be done decently and in order.” We shall know the truth and truth shall make us free.
(Melvin’s Note: Just so you understand, this fellow is what the pimps produce. Not vibrant, faith-filled followers of Christ, rightly handling the Word of God. Did you also notice this fellow is involved with almost every big name pimp out there? Spiritually, it’s as if he is a racehorse that has been hobbled. The longer the pimps are unopposed with the truth, the more people will be reduced to this. )
You are down right stupid! It leads me to say “Satan, the Lord rebuke you”. You may kick me off your website because I never intend to get back on
(Melvin’s Note: And it leads me to say “NO more postings for you! At least not if you continue to say the really silly and pointless things you are saying. )
The more I think about it, the more this person (Salomon) seems too “good” to be true. At first I was willing to accept what he is saying. But you know what my momma says: If something seems too good to be true, it usually is. I suspect Saloman is not exactly who he or she says he is. And this is good. I would hate to think a person is really as badly bound up as Salomon’s testimony indicates he/she is. But he’s still banned from the site.
Melvin
New to the site. My fam Seal referred me to it. I likey.
Yo,
Salomon is so caught up in Heretic Teachings that Man has taekn the place of God in his/her life. Instead of defending the Gospel this person defends a mere man. Their focus is obviously off, but instead of questioning and studying the word, this person more than likely studies Heretic Teaching, then applies that to their life.
Melvin, you and I know that it’s going to take a sovereign intervention of God before this person sees the Truth of Christ. They will only go back and forth with you with no appeal to Scripture, but only with vain babblings and cliches that their Heretic Teacher taught them.
Unfortunately, these Heretics/Pimps are teaching their followers to rebuke anybody who comes against what Pastor says, so anytime they are presented with Truth, they react in ignorance instead of actually being open minded and considering what Scripture says. I’ve had all the headaches I can take beating a dead horse and am just resorting more to Prayer then Head knowledge….However, I Love this site for bringing Light to the Darkness…
Grace and Peace
seal
Why are you wasting time talking about people if you don’t have nothing good to say why say anything? Aren’t you suppose to pray for people instead of hurting people if they are fake? Then what are you?
Yo,
Cynthia, show me in Scripture where it says I have to pray for a Heretic? Scripture tell me to expose them and warn others about them.
Romans 16:17-18
“17I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. 18For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive.”
You also make an assumption that makes you look bad. Do you know that I never prayed for this person? I’ve prayed for the Heretics that are pointed out on this sight, but they are getting no better, therefore I figured it was prophecy and nothing I could pray to stop. I’m not hurting no one if they are fake, I’m bringing to the knowledge that they are indeed fake. People like to pat people on their back when their wrong, but I’d rather rebuke them and show them their error. I actually consider myself more of a distant friend of these guys then actually trying to hurt them. I don’t know them personally, but I do see that their teachings is erroneous and full of damdable heresies, so I react as one trying to snatch them out of the fire.
Proverbs 27:6
Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.
So, if a friend hurts you, only know that the friend only wants what’s best for you. However when people like yourself, continue to pat them on their backs so they can tell you what you want to hear, you are really crippling them further away from the Truth.
So who’s the real friend here?
Grace and Peace
seal
Why would you NOT pray for a heretic??
Yo,
Chris show me where in Scripture it says to pray for those who blaspheme the Word of God.
1 Timothy 1:18-20
“18This charge I entrust to you, Timothy, my child, in accordance with the prophecies previously made about you, that by them you may wage the good warfare, 19holding faith and a good conscience. By rejecting this, some have made shipwreck of their faith, 20among whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme. ”
2 JOHN 10-11
10If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, 11for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works.
Jeremiah 8:8-12
“8″How can you say, ‘We are wise,
and the law of the LORD is with us’?
But behold, the lying pen of the scribes
has made it into a lie.
9The wise men shall be put to shame;
they shall be dismayed and taken;
behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD,
so what wisdom is in them?
10Therefore I will give their wives to others
and their fields to conquerors,
because from the least to the greatest
everyone is greedy for unjust gain;
from prophet to priest,
everyone deals falsely.
11They have healed the wound of my people lightly,
saying, ‘Peace, peace,’
when there is no peace.
12Were they ashamed when they committed abomination?
No, they were not at all ashamed;
they did not know how to blush.
Therefore they shall fall among the fallen;
when I punish them, they shall be overthrown,
says the LORD. ”
Ezekiel 13:1-9
“1The word of the LORD came to me: 2″Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel, who are prophesying, and say to those who prophesy from their own hearts: ‘Hear the word of the LORD!’ 3Thus says the Lord GOD, Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit, and have seen nothing! 4Your prophets have been like jackals among ruins, O Israel. 5You have not gone up into the breaches, or built up a wall for the house of Israel, that it might stand in battle in the day of the LORD. 6They have seen false visions and lying divinations. They say, ‘Declares the LORD,’ when the LORD has not sent them, and yet they expect him to fulfill their word. 7Have you not seen a false vision and uttered a lying divination, whenever you have said, ‘Declares the LORD,’ although I have not spoken?”
8Therefore thus says the Lord GOD: “Because you have uttered falsehood and seen lying visions, therefore behold, I am against you, declares the Lord GOD. 9My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and who give lying divinations. They shall not be in the council of my people, nor be enrolled in the register of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter the land of Israel. And you shall know that I am the Lord GOD.”
Yahweh is the one who condemns False teachers and prophets, not I says the cat….Also, if you read what I wrote, I did pray for them, but they only got worst, so I figured it was prophecy coming to past…
Grace and Peace
seal
If Salomon was a hopeless drug-addict and now he is not; what can be wrong with that? Praise God that he was given a new life. This is what Christianity is all about. Salomon was lost and now he is found. Imagine the relief it is on his family and his society. Drugs are one of society’s worst nightmare’s. If only all people could be delivered like Salomon was. Correct me if I’m wrong. I’m sure it would be a good praise report to what ever ministry was involved. No man should take credit. Only by the power of God was Salomon set free.
(Melvin’s Note: Agreed. But that isn’t what the pimps or Salomon are saying. )
To: Seal, If you are down with the old testement you should know that Hezekiah, David, and many others gave important OFFERINGS just before a breakthrough. Salomon gave important OFFERINGS just before his breakthrough. Is not the 5-fold ministry for the equipping of the saints. Israel welcomes all of TBN.The main prophetic word they utter is “And this Gospel shall be preached unto all nations, then the end will come”. I believe whoever supports the fulfillment of this prophecy is doing a good thing.
Zeal,
1) Define what you mean by “Breakthrough”
2) When was the last time the Gospel was actually preached on TBN? They always are saying give us money so that we can preach the Gospel, but they never do. According to my ressearch, TBN brings in about $90 Million in pledges each time they have a telethon. They bring in more than enough to buy airtime, and unlimited rhinestone liberace shirts for Paul…
3) Please show us somewhere in scripture that money needs to be given in order for healing, salvation, etc. (Wasn’t that why Jesus threw down on the money exchangers because they turned the Father’s house into a “den of theives” because they were getting money and doing people’s sacrifices for them?)
4) Others have made the point that AA, Buddhism, and other groups like scientology can bring about change in people’s lives. A pimp may take “credit” for a healing or change, but the difference is that no ministry can take the “credit” for Salvation. That was the work of Christ alone!! That’s what is important. My next Sermon is called “The Forgotten Gospel.” Remember when being saved was enough? We should seek after the Presence of God, not the Presents. Just something to chew on….
2 Chron. 30 Speaks of King Hezekiah restoring the Passover and all the people gave offerings. THEN in verse 20 “the Lord healed the people”. 1 Chron.21 speaks of David giving a burnt OFFERING, read for yourself verse 25. I give to TBN out of obedience to God. I tithe to my local church out of obedience to God. All I do is in Obedience to God. I have been healed of all Envy, bitterness, and other sins of the FLESH.
I LIKE WHAT SALOMON SAID:There can be someone out there that is in bondage; he can be on the brink of deliverance, like I was. Through the five-fold ministry he would be given a prophetic word, like I was given. Through obedience, faith, and an act of faith, God would respond and heal this man, like I was. Satan would love to steal this word, to keep the man from being delivered. You can be used of the enemy to steal a prophetic word by all of your comments about todays Men and Women of God. Does not the word say it would be better to tie a stone to your neck and cast yourself to the sea than to offend a child of God. TO NO REPLY
Zeal
But why did David give a burnt offering at that place? I’m sure a pastor you heard used this as some spiritualized text in order that you do something so you can get something. I want you to read the whole chapter, not just that text and see why David did what He did in 1 Chronicles 21. Like someone said before read the Scriptures surrounding the text. You tithe, that’s great, let me ask you this. Do you think that you give all the time out of the cheerfulness of your heart? Or do you do it because you feel mandated to give? If you give 10%, but do it because you feel obligated, and I give 7%, but I do it out of cheerfulness, who do you think God will be pleased with more?
Still waiting. Just say “I AGREE”. Praise the Lord.
Zeal,
Sincere took a little of my thunder, but I still have a few questions. Do you think God healed the people ONLY because a burnt offering was offered? Do you think that Jakes, Bynum-Weeks, Hinn,Meyer, Long, Parsley, etc. have a bigger “annointing” or the ability to contact God in a bigger and better way than any of us small time preachers and /or “plain old ” christians? Neither you or Saloman were changed by the power of man, no matter how many suspect “testimonies” you give. Does God honor their prayers any more than any of ours? And finally, a question I love to ax all y’all pimp defenders: what about the believers in Sudan and China? They have NOTHING, and yet risk persecution or death by either radical Islam or the Communists. Those people have never given to the pimps in their lives, (and are better off for it!) and are often appalled when they come to America and hear our version of the Gospel. Zeal, there is no extra power in the “men and women” of God than in any ordinary believer. ( I know that is blasphemy to the “ho’s”) They have no more authority in the Kingdom than you or I do. The power, authority, majesty, and glory goes to Jesus the Christ, not in ANY man! (or woman)
I cheerfully give ten percent. I have stood in awe and watched my bank account prosper. Along with my walk with the Lord. Now you really sound like a Pharisee. I HEAR all the spirit is saying regarding prophetic WORDS. I dont sit there and question it all and hesitate. Doubt kills FAITH and faith without works is dead. Instead of fulfilling my worldly desires I have resorted to GIVING. Now all my needs are met and I have the Joy of the Lord that NO MAN can take away.
I don’t mean to be too abrupt ladies and gentlemen, but this posting is now closed to comments.
Melvin