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Folks, I have to admit I was rather taken aback by the volume and mystic laden comments of Max. However, G’s comments are so amazing, I decided to give the comment its own posting from the git-go. He repeats some of what Max says and then takes up his own form of “Things Need to Change But God Doesn’t Want Me To Do Anything To Change Them.” And since the comment came from INSIDE First Baptist Chruch of Glenarden (I assume it’s someone with an account on their system and therefore, it seems, in some form of leadership there) it seems to have significance purely in its content. I’ll not make any analysis.

Oh, and I did make a couple of changes. G gave his first name. I substituted the letter G. In discussing an alleged homosexual, G provides the initials of his subjects first and last name. I removed the initial for the last name. G also gave his subject’s first name. I changed it to only the first initial. (Talk about being a gossip. G is willing - but I said I wasn’t going to comment, so never mind.) I will also leave out the fact that all of this is taking place in the ********* Ministry.

Here’s the comment. Judge for yourself.

Just the address of your website reflects that no “genuine” Christian would ever support you or your endeavors. I’ve reviewed the transmissions between you and Max. GOD is not leading me to agree with you nor your responses. Yet I do agree with Max and share his/her concerns.

Inspite of its imperfections, I am blessed to be a member of FBCG. Pastor Jenkins is a great teacher!! So far, I agree with most of what I’ve heard (with my own ears). Yet FBCG and other churches have some “issues” that grieve my spirit AND the spirit of God. In particular, we’re grieved by their tolerance of “homosexuals in highly visible positions, such as music ministry, preaching, or church offices”. (No; The growth of a church is not an indication of GOD being pleased with it.)

Based on your disposition, you obviously know everything. Yet please allow me to share some insight with those who have a humble spirit. The “churchgoing homosexual and bisexuals” do certain things to camouflage their immoral sexuality. The following are some of the “tricks” they try to pull in order to keep church pastors, leaders, and saints from recognizing them:

1) “Fake heterosexual appearances”: In public, they might appear to have a girlfriend. If homosexuality is a taboo in their family, some even get married. Yet that’s really an attempt to disguise their real sexuality.

At FBCG, S. is a prime example of this. He occasionally shows up with his so-called “girlfriend”. Hypothetically speaking: S. could get married or show-up with 50 Sports Illustrated covergirls. Yet that would never change my verdict on him. S. can’t fool me, and he surely can’t fool GOD who is all-knowing.

2) “Hostile appearance towards homosexuality”: The church homo/DLs might speak or preach against homosexuality. They might appear hostile towards the idea. Yet, in reality, he may actually be a “partaker” of homosexuality.

3) “The act of agreement”: The church homo/DLs may agree with statements made against homosexuals. At FBCG, S is another example of this.

During a sermon, Pastor Jenkins briefly mentioned “homosexuality”. Then S had the audacity to say out loud, “That’s doctrine!” Oh no; Who was he trying to fool!!

4) “Female associations/rapports”: The church homo/DLs may appear to have rapport with females (inside the church). Yet they’re mainly gossip partners. In reality, homo/DLs spend most of their time hanging around their male friends/lovers. (S is a big gossiper.)

5) “Macho man image”: They may act macho or masculine. Yet that’s not a true indication of their sexuality nowadays. You have to have wisdom and strong discernment. Yet, a careful study of them will reveal their homosexual tendencies.

6) “A sympathetic ear”: The church homo/DLs may act like a “friend” by lending a listening ear to males of interest. If a male prospect needs to talk, the homo/DL will readily make himself available.

At FBCG, S, targets and tries to make friends with the younger men. He cultivates his relationships when the leaders, etc. aren’t looking. Thus far, I’ve learned of one allegation of a male who felt as though he was “approached” by S. He confided in an associate. Thus, church leaders probably weren’t informed.

As we discern or recognize the homosexuals and DLs in ******** ministry or church (in general), we should take some form of “action”. Yet our action should be to pray that people like S will repent from their homosexuality (with godly sorrow). Also pray that God will keep him and other homosexuals from corrupting the other males (inside the church). God’s more interested in obedience than hearing praise/worship through an “unholy” vessel.

If the church leaders ever get in line with God’s word, they will not tolerate homosexuals, lesbians, etc. in visible or ministry positions. Instead, they would take disciplinary actions to remove such persons from their positions. Just preaching about it isn’t doing something about it! That’s why the “fags” feel comfortable staying at certain churches.

GOD delivered me from that lifestyle 9 years ago. Back then, I had relationships with some ministers. Yet first, I had to be willing to give it up. That came through struggles and people praying for me. Thus, I know the power of prayer.

So I’d like to challenge all intercessors to pray AND fast for S, FBCG, and all churches regarding homosexuality and bi-sexuality issues. Amen.

P.S. (I love Pastor Jenkins and wish him well in his recovery.)

As I promised: No comments from me. Maybe later but not just yet. Okay, just one. Did you notice he said “…we should take some form of “action”. Yet our action should be to pray that people like S will repent from their homosexuality (with godly sorrow)…” This pretty well sums up the attitude the Bible-illiterates have. Did Paul tell the Corinthians to pray and fast so the guy living with him step-mother would repent? Definitely not.

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Comment by The Polemicist
2005-06-12 22:52:47

Interesting. Indeed, that post was made from a computer within the church’s network. More interestingly, computer(s) within the church have been accessing this site almost daily since January 29.

Methinks your posts are of interest to FBCG leadership, Mr. Jones.

 
Comment by Ayana
2005-06-12 22:59:28

A short time ago - I also called myself having the ability to point out some homosexuals - but seeing someone else do it showed me how wrong it was.

The definition of homosexuality is having sex with the same sex - and that’s it. Homosexuality is not defined by the way that you walk, talk, dress, ect. To assume that the reason someone walks, talks, ect. a certain way is because of their sexuality is very judgemental.

Unless you see the person engaging in homosexual behavior - or if the person actually admits to it - it is not fair to claim to know what they do behind closed doors.

Ayana :)

 
Comment by Melvin Jones
2005-06-13 05:32:51

If any of you people at FBCG want to correspond with me, my email address is mjones@pulpit-pimps.org .

If you want to talk to John Coleman (he on the Left - I mean West Coast), his email address is intotheword1@comcast.net.

We’d love to hear from you. Anything you send to me via email will not end up on my web site. I promise. In fact I’m in communications with several people right now.

Melvin

 
Comment by Jon Moten
2005-06-13 21:22:38

GOD delivered me into the hands of Pastor Jenkins in 1995. I gave my life to Christ in 1996. He is a real Man Of God. To say otherwise would be untrue. He not only teaches the Word, but he lives it…Sorry you are wrong on this one…no Pimp in the Pulpit here…..peace.

 
Comment by Melvin Jones
2005-06-13 23:24:51

That’s a strange way of putting it. When the Bible talks about someone being delivered into the hands of this person or that, it is for the purpose of expressing God’s wrath.

And please note that this is not something I am saying. Don’t bother to tell me I’m wrong. Tell G and Max that they are wrong. I normally don’t deal in this kind of gossip/supposition/unchristian commentary. I am simply reflecting what appears to be there at First Baptist Church of Glenarden. And it’s not very pretty, is it?

Melvin Jones

 
Comment by Daren
2005-06-14 03:03:23

As you already know, the term “DL” refers to black men who are undercover bi-sexuals. Indeed this rarely mentioned issue deserves its own posting. It’s plaguing the church and black communities. Our churches are too quiet about it. I’m also a member of FBCG, and I’m ticked off about what I’ve seen. It’s only a matter of time before God’s wrath comes down on some of its key ministry staff.

I’m very dismayed about FBCG and other church’s “tolerance of homosexuals in highly visible positions, such as music ministry, teaching, or church offices”. This sets a poor example for those who need deliverance and those who need to grow spiritually. Allowing homosexuals to actively partake in ministry totally makes void any sermon against homosexuality!

Question: How can a pastor preach against homosexuality then ALLOW a “homosexual” to lead praise and worship? How can so many saints sit back and be comfortable in an environment that contradicts God’s word? Even an unsaved person should recognize something’s not right about this picture.

This non-chalet acceptance of homosexuality at FBCG is the only thing that lowers my respect for that ministry. Yet it’s not just the men. According to my wife, there’s a lot of “lesbians” in the house also. Just like a man (a real one) can discern a homosexual easier. Women are quicker to discern a lesbian. If anyone believes one needs to “catch someone in the act” in order to know they’re a homosexual, they are very naïve and wrong. If the Holy Spirit is operating in one’s life, he will reveal truths also.

FBCG isn’t the only church with homosexual issues. That’s the main comment I hear about Greater Mt. Calvary when their church is mentioned. Today’s saints are losing a major battle over the devil when they allow themselves to embrace homosexuality and bisexuality (especially within ministry positions). You can preach and talk about homosexuality. But if you don’t do nothing about it, that’s embracing it.

I totally agree that intercessors should pray for Brother H. and FBCG regarding their homosexuality and bi-sexuality issues.

Melvin’s Note: See the latest posting for my comments.

 
Comment by Nevermind
2005-06-15 02:11:16

ummmm…this is interesting and somewhat frightening and true…sure is funny that I know exactly who you are speaking of…and the younger man thing –it’s a fact…but this is NOT Pastor Jenkins fault…he can only do exactly what he’s doing, TEACH ON IT!…PEACE! Melvin’s note: Wrong! He can kick the people out if they refuse to turn away and counsel them if they do. Again, see the latest posting for my comments

 

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