Not a Church - But Did It Right
Posted by Melvin Jones on June 30th, 2005Here’s an example of what we have been talking about in terms of judging sin in the organization. It’s not very pretty, but it must be done.
Click here.
Here’s an example of what we have been talking about in terms of judging sin in the organization. It’s not very pretty, but it must be done.
Click here.
Let’s take another look at Cashflow…er..sorry…Creflo Dollar. I have been pretty much leaving him alone, focusing on some of the other outrages taking place in the name of Jesus Christ. Some of you threaten those of us who will speak out against the heretics. You say such things as “touch not God’s anointed” or “you’re causing division among the saints” or other really stupid, knee-jerk things.
But the stupid, no - deadly things are the statements made by Creflo and his bunch.
For example, in one of his studies, Dollar states that Jesus had Type G blood. I’m not lying. Take a look at a copy of one of the studies he put up on the web last year. Click here and look at the section in the black lined box.
He says: “God fathered Adam. Adam had Type G blood. The blood type of God. ”
In this one statement, Dollar demotes God to the status of man. If God the Father is a spirit, then He does not have a body. If he doesn’t have a body, He can’t possibly have blood. If he doesn’t have blood, then he can’t have a blood type. Yet this blasphemer tells you that God has type “G” blood. And you just sit there and marvel at how heavy this clown is.
In Section D. 3, Dollar goes on to say that Jesus suffered in hell, that he died spiritually (whatever that means as it relates to Jesus), that he became the first born-again man. Again, He became the first BORN AGAIN man.
Do you understand what he has said here? By saying that Jesus was born-again, he implies that Jesus was separated from the Father and had to be regenerated. In other words, for whatever reason, Jesus had to be born again the same as us. The only difference between us and Jesus, according to Creflo, is that Jesus did the suffering that we couldn’t to. And because he could bear the suffering in hell, he could be the first born-again man and paved the way for us.
But this flies in the face of what the Bible says.
Jesus told Nicodemus that he (Nicodemus) had to be born again, born of the Spirit, not born of suffering in hell, nor born again as a result of Jesus suffering in hell.
No place do Jesus, Paul, the writer of Hebrews, Peter, John, Jude, Matthew, Mark or Luke say that we are born again through Jesus suffering in hell. They do say, however, that Jesus’ death on the cross reconciled us to the Father. They do say that his broken body restored the relationship between men and the Father. And they do say that His death made it possible for us to become the children of God.
I’m not making this stuff up. Here is a screen shot of a Bible study (though I’m not sure of which Bible he’s using) from Creflo’s site. Again, click here to see the lesson for yourself.
How can you possibly follow after this man? And how can you refer to him as a man of God? Jehova’s Witnesses have more respect for the Bible than this joker does. “All” they do is deny his deity and twist scripture. At least they don’t make up a bunch of fantasies out of whole cloth the way Creflo, Kenny, Freddy and the now expired Daddy Hagin do/did.
Creflo offers a cheap and deadly substitute for the real thing. And anyone who follows after him and his teachings should question not only their ability to discern the truth, but should even question their salvation since they can be so badly deceived by the most basic of lies. But, in all probability, if you are willing to follow Creflo, you will not be able to discern the truth. But of course, the last person able to accurately judge their own salvation is the unsaved.
Worse than that, if you openly and Biblically question people like Creflo, Jakes, and the rest of the Word Faith teachers, you are accused of attacking the Men of God (which, of course, they aren’t since they teach lies and seek to deceive the church).
Let’s revisit. I think the corporate memory has faded and needs refreshing.
This site is not here to lead the unsaved to Christ.
It’s not here to help those who are looking for God. The unsaved aren’t looking for God. They are avoiding and cursing Him. (Romans 5:10 - The unsaved are enemies of God; Romans 8:7 - The unsaved are hostile toward God)
It’s not here reconcile differences within the church between those who teach heresies and the believer.
It is here to call attention to those who would attempt to deceive the church with lies and fairy tales.
Why is this site here? In obedience to the following:
Acts 20:29-30
29 I know that after I have gone, savage worlves will com in among you, not sparing the flock. 30 Some even fron your own group will come distorting the truth in order to entice the disciples to follwo them.
Romans 16:17, 18
I urge you brothers and sisters, to keep an eye on those who cause dissensionsn and offense, in opposition to the teachings that youve learned; avoid them. For such people do not serve our Lord Christ, but their won appetites; and by smooth talk and flattery they decieve the hearts of the simple-minded.2 Thess 3:14
Take note of those who do not obey what we say in this letter; have nothing to do with them, so that they may be ashamed. 15 Do not regard them as enemies, but warn them as believers.2 John 9 - 11
9 Everyone who does not abide in the teaching of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have God; whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 Do not recieve into the house or welcome anyone who comes to you and does not bring this teaching; 11 for to welcome is to participate in the evil deeds of such a person.
Why am I spending money I could be using for flight training to maintain this site?
I’m doing it because most of you do-nothing Christians (Black, White, and Brown) are sitting around while the wolves and the pulpit pimps attack the sheep and make Christianity look like a clutch of pathetic, mind-numbed, monkey-drool losers. You do-nothing Christians piously misquote Scripture and say “Touch not God’s anointed!” while the slaughter continues.
Some of you sit in church clapping your hands and swaying back and forth becuase you really don’t know any better. Some of you, God forgive you, don’t want to know any better. And all the time, the wolves run amuck, fleecing the flock.
Some of you, when you read the stuff on this site will say “I didn’t know that! That’s not right!” Others of you, the ones who allow the wolves to continue to fleece the flock, will say “We are supposed to just love one another and enjoy unity, even at the expense of the truth. The pastor belongs to God and God will correct him. It’s not my job. And besides, even if it is heresy, it’s not going to send me to hell. ” You will then pretend you never read the scriptures I cited at the beginning of this page.
Some of you will even accuse me of being hateful, judgmental, and a host of other things.
But most of you will continue on your merry ways. If you wife likes the church you attend, nothing the pastor says or does will get you out of there unless your wife chooses to leave.
And the result? The body of Christ will continue to be pimped by the Big Dogs and the Big Dog wannabees.
Who are the wolves and the pimps?
Here is a Rogues’ Gallery of just a few of the bigger perpetrators with a couple of small pimps and pimpettes thrown in for Good measure. As I continue to add to the site, you can hear some of their foolishness or see some the their schemes by clicking on each pimp’s picture. Until I can get some audios in, I will simply continue to play their theme song P.I.M.P,. by Fifty Cent. The links at the top right hand corner of this page take you to more detailed information and analysis for of their “ministries”.
E-mails are welcomed. But I expect you to address the issues (the idiocies the people poison the sheep with), and not give some psuedo pious knee jerk response. Depending on your language, your responses will be published and I will gladly respond.
This comment was made under the posting “Runnin with the Big Dogs.” Just thought I’d put it here so you could see it. I approved the comment back there so I probably won’t leave this up very long. Other than breaking it out into more manageable paragraphs, I didn’t change anything. And I don’t know this fellow at all; never talked to him before.
Wow! I came across this site by accident, and found some things very interesting. There are a couple things I need to say and I’m going to bounce. Excuse the spelling errors and the grammatical mistakes.
First and foremost I love FBCG. I have learned a lot and have built some pretty good relationships with some of my brothers and sisters in Christ. So, I’m not here to defend FBCG or Pastor Jenkins. I’m also not here to defend the owner of this BLOG because there are some things that I think are on point and there are other things here that I think is bias. I’m here as a concerned Christian. I’ve been a member of FBCG for a little more than 4 years, my wife has been here a little longer.
In the beginning, I felt like I was right at home. Took some classes, join a couple of ministries (which I’m still active in), pay my tithes and went to bible study every week. As someone who was growing in Christ, I continue to read the bible but I soon start to come across sites like this. I began to realize that there is a growing problem in the Christian Church and Glenarden is not excluded from this.
To be truthful, I don’t care to know about the dark sub-culture that exists at FBCG, but I do care if what I’m being taught lines up with scripture and I do care if the people who are the examples, the ones who are in leadership are leading their lives within the parameters of God’s will and His word. As a believer I think this is essential in a persons walk to see other believers, especially those in leadership, living their lives in this manner and not faking it. I get a boost from this along with praying daily and staying in that word.
Now, I do have some personal issues with FBCG, but it has not ran me and the wife away yet. I’m still tripping off the torture me and my wife had to endure just to have our wedding there. If we had the chance to do it all over again we would have had at my mom’s church. I still cannot believe they charged 2 members, who are active members, who pay tithes and offering on the regular, a fee to use the microphone system in the church. That crap was not cheap either. I’m still a little salty about that, but that is not why I’m posting. Sorry for the tangent.
Anyway, I read in several sections on this weblog that FBCG sometimes does not practice what they preach. Sorry to admit this but that accusation holds some weight. If we are a bible believing church then we need to uphold the principals that we have read and have been taught from the pulpit. I think one of the things I had to raise a red flag to are some of the guest who have come to FBCG.
Some have been great and preached the word like it suppose to preached, straight from the word of God while others preached what they thought the congregation wanted to hear and in some cases it was not biblical.
Here is one example, for the past 3 years I have endured sitting there at the New years revival and hearing a word from Bishop T.D. Jakes. I had to be there because my ministry was working the event those nights. I’m not sure why he was there in the first place because some of the things that he’s preached are just not biblical. I witness that with my own eyes when I was on travel in Dallas and visited the Potter’s House one Sunday morning.
Some of the people he has aligned himself with in the “Word of Faith” movement (i.e. those you see on TBN) is quite disturbing to me. So I had to ask the question again, why is he here? I have a lot of respect for Pastor Jenkins, but I just don’t understand why he has aligned himself with Jakes, who himself (Jakes) has established a relationship with a circle of people who do not teach essential Christian doctrine.
I admit he said some good things, but I still can’t shake the fact that the other so-called pastors he hang around with are notorious for preaching and supporting an un-biblical doctrine. I’m having a real hard time with this. It’s the whole “Birds of the feather, flock together”, saying that has me twisted.
I just want FBCG to live up to the motto that we hold in such high regard, “Developing Dynamic Disciples Through Discipleship, Discipline and Duplication”. I pray things will get better, but I fear that once the new church is built there is going to be a huge influx of a lot things which has the potential to open up a bigger can of worms. The new place is a Pandora’s Box waiting to happen. The wife and I talked about it and we fear that there is going to be a day we may have to leave FBCG. Through this place God has turned my life around and I would love to see others have that same experience, but I don’t want us to go down a road in which the gospel is being twisted. I have always thought that FBCG was not the typical mega church, but I fear that if things continue then it may become like one. I think about a lesson that Pastor taught in Bible study a couple of times (once this year) about the Compromising Church (Revelation 2:12-17), has FBCG become like this church? I don’t know, but I do see some warning signs. Then I think about a sermon preached a couple of months ago from Jude. Man, though it’s one the smallest book in the bible, that one chapter is so powerful. As a member of the body of Christ we absolutely cannot compromise on God’s instructions nor can we allow others to teach false doctrines. Especially in our pulpit. This goes for the members, deacons, ministerial staff and the pastor himself.
I do not condone what has been said on this blog, but I do challenge all those involved, the owner of this BLOG, members (including myself), deacons, and ministerial staff to be more vigilant, uncompromising and hold on to God’s word. In these ending days, that is all we going to have and we must be equipped properly and be ready to engage in spiritual war.
Later.
I cleaned it up a little, but here’s a comment from a fellow who just couldn’t keep from commenting on the closed post about D/L in church. Remember, once a posting is closed to comments, you can always send me an e-mail. I will not POST your e-mail unless you give me permission. And your identity will not be revealed unless you give me permission. But I really wanted to put this comment up. Thus the individual posting. Feel free to comment as long as you can resist the urge to talk forever.
Here’s the comment:
For a while now I have been shamefully viewing this site. I’m just upset that while people are trying to get to the First Baptist homepage, they come here instead if they type .com instead of .org. I’m going to respond only once and I only have one thing to say about this issue about the music ministry you keeping talking about.
I have a “Life Application Bible (King James)” and as you know this bible has footnotes which break down the meanings of bible verses. What I am about to say (mostly from my bible. I’m not taking credit) sums up everything.
In the footnotes for 1Corinthians 6:9 and 6:11 the note says: “Paul was describing characteristics of unbelievers. He doesn’t mean that adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, or greedy people are automatically excluded from heaven. Christians come from all backgrounds, including these. They may still struggle with evil desires, but they should not continue in these practices. In 6:11 Paul clearly stated that even those who sin in these ways can have their lives changed by Christ. However, those who say they are Christians but persist in these practices with NO remorse shall not inherit the Kingdom of God. Now unless somebody sees S. walking around switching, holding another man’s hand, or anybody else’s for that matter, you cant tell what’s in that person’s heart or whether or not they are truly trying to change.
If somebody is homosexual and wants help and repents for their sins the church is the right place for them. Nobody at First Baptist embraces that lifestyle openly in service, if they did they would addressed by Pastor Jenkins. He or she who is struggling with these evil desires must understand their sins and should not continue their ways with no remorse. For if they do God will hand them over. Romans 1:27-28 NOBODY (except GOD) really knows what’s going on in these people’s personal lives. So SHUT it about not liking whoever in the music ministry because GOSSIP is a sin as well.
I couldn’t have said it better myself.
I. A Quick Review
We have, earlier in this site, been looking at the Fruit of the Spirit and relating that fruit to the Christian’s day-to-day life. Rather than relegating this subject to the ether of winsome spirituality, we are attempting to show how these qualities effect how we live our lives. According to Galatians 5:22 and 23, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. (more…)
Look people, this site isn’t about DL, Homo, GLBT, or any other sexual perversion. It’s about doctrine. But it’s interesting that the very condition causing the church to sink into a mire of heresy, the very condition causing the pastors to fail to speak the truth, is apparently the same circumstance making it possible for the secret and not so secret homosexual to operate in leadership positions in the church organization. To illustrate this, let’s take a look at the church in Corinth and compare their actions to the general actions the Milquetoast saints take in the face of sin. (more…)
I just talked to one of the folks who know John fairly well and have something of an inside access to what’s going on. Here’s the scoop so far.
John apparently suffered a really big headache. He was taken to the Bowie Medical Center in Prince Georges county. The medical staff there did a couple of tests, got a little nervous and sent him over to Washington Medical Center.
The crack staff there did a series of test and did not come up with anything obvious. Apparently there was no sign of blood (as in an aneurism).
The folks at First Baptist are pretty much convinced that John has simply been working too hard.
I hope this is true. As I have said on several occasions, John has a great deal to answer for. And I would hate to see him stand before the the bema seat and try to explain the things he has done (and failed to do) in the flesh.
Melvin
Folks, I have to admit I was rather taken aback by the volume and mystic laden comments of Max. However, G’s comments are so amazing, I decided to give the comment its own posting from the git-go. He repeats some of what Max says and then takes up his own form of “Things Need to Change But God Doesn’t Want Me To Do Anything To Change Them.” And since the comment came from INSIDE First Baptist Chruch of Glenarden (I assume it’s someone with an account on their system and therefore, it seems, in some form of leadership there) it seems to have significance purely in its content. I’ll not make any analysis. (more…)
Ladies and Gentlemen,
Last night, John Jenkins apparently suffered an aneurism near his brain. He was taken to the Bowie, MD emergency room, treated and medivaced to a hispital. I don’t know which hospital or any other details.
Once his condition is known for certain, if it is not favorable, I will suspend (and probably temorarily remove) all Jenkins related postings. If once he recovers, he continues in the same heretical path he has been taking, we will start again.
Pray for him that he will recover. And pray that he would then turn back to the truth.
This may be the last posting for FBCG. I’m not sure.
Melvin Jones
It’s as if the religious lemmings out there all think with the same brain. I just moderated a posting from “We Will Draw All Men Unto Us - With Entertainment”. Here is the text of the Two-Year-First-Baptist Member’s (TYFBM) comment.
Melvin, I’m a FBCG member. I’ve been here for over 2 years. I’m only here because GOD planted me here for His reasons.
Someone told me about your website. I skimmed through a few things under the “John K. Jenkins” category. Yet my real question is “what spirit lead (sp) YOU to create this website”? It certainly was not the spirit of God. Why? His word tells us to “do all to the glory of God”. There’s nothing about gossiping or downing people that glorifies God.
See, you people think I’m being extreme and unreasonable in my complaints about the compromise that seems to overwhelming the church.
First Baptist Church of Glenarden, Beulahland, and a bunch of others no longer stand by the essentials of the faith. The doctrine of the Trinity? Not important. We need to be unified. Suffering on the cross versus suffering in hell for our sins? It doesn’t matter. We need to be unified in love. (more…)
And a bounty arrives at my door yet again! Fairy God Mother Hickey, who for the sake of brevity shall be referred to as FGM Hickey, sent me yet another opportunity to cash in on God’s supernatural blessings.
Today I got a green prayer cloth! All I have to do to enjoy the blessings of God is
a. Print my first name on the cloth
b. Print the word “Car” or “Mortgage” or “Bills” or any single word or words that represent where I want that financial-anointing to be released.
c. Put the green cloth, with the words written on it, into the envelop she was generous enough to provide.
d. Now pay attention because this is the most important part: Include a “Miracle Seed” for the Financial Harvest I need. The form starts at $35 and goes up to $500.
e. Mail those buggers in and on June 29th, July 29th, and August 29th she and her prayer warriors are going to “place a real, tangible, supernatural [FINANCIAL BREAKTHROUGH] anointing on your green cloth and SEND IT BACK TO YOU with some special instructions. Probably something like “Send more money.” I’ve seen “Hold my money while I go in the bank” cons done more gracefully than this.
Here’s the money grubbing sheet I have to send back with the cloth.
Here is an image of the cheap piece of cloth she sent me.

As I’ve said in previous postings: It’s bad enough she tries to convince you God is your cosmic bell hop.
Take a look at this.

She’s too cheap to even pay for the postage when you send your money in to her.
As I think about it, this sure does seem an awful lot like the scheme…I mean protocol used by a fellow out of Texas. Take a look at his scam here and here.
I think I finally found one of the sources for the doctrinal suicide much of the church is engaged in. I’ve referred to the author and the book a couple of times throughout this site. However, as I have studied the book a little more closely, I made a very interesting observation.
Rick Warren, the author of the now ubiquitous “The Purpose Driven Life (TPDL)” is probably doing more to destroy Christianity than Calypso Louie (AKA The Honorable Louis Farrakhan) has ever done. (more…)