10 This salvation was something the prophets wanted to know more about. They prophesied about this gracious salvation prepared for you, even though they had many questions as to what it all could mean. 11They wondered what the Spirit of Christ within them was talking about when he told them in advance about Christ’s suffering and his great glory afterward. They wondered when and to whom all this would happen.
12They were told that these things would not happen during their lifetime, but many years later, during yours. And now this Good News has been announced by those who preached to you in the power of the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. It is all so wonderful that even the angels are eagerly watching these things happen.

So, Scripture is very precise in helping us understand the tatics of these pimps who claim to have Divine Revelations from God, but I encourage you all to study the culture during the times of the True Prophets like Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and Isaiah and see that the False Prophets of their time resemble Benny Hinn, Cashflo Dollar, Fred Price, T. Dexter, Copeland, and the TBN Family.

Grace and Peace
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P.S….Check out this Scripture Passage from Ezekiel 13…

Ezekiel 13:1-7

“1Then this message came to me from the LORD: 2″Son of man, speak against the false prophets of Israel who are inventing their own prophecies. Tell them to listen to the word of the LORD. 3This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Destruction is certain for the false prophets who are following their own imaginations and have seen nothing at all!
4″O people of Israel, these prophets of yours are like jackals digging around in the ruins. 5They have done nothing to strengthen the breaks in the walls around the nation. They have not helped it to stand firm in battle on the day of the LORD. 6Instead, they have lied and said, `My message is from the LORD,’ even though the LORD never sent them. And yet they expect him to fulfill their prophecies! 7Can your visions be anything but false if you claim, `This message is from the LORD,’ when I have not even spoken to you?”

Mel, you remind me of Ezekiel….Keep bringing the Truth of the Scripture…

“And He gave some, apostotles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some pastors and teachers”

Now I am not the greatest Bible scholar, but rather someone who seeks Truth and revelation from the Lord. With that said, I will not say that the Word above is wrong, but as we all know, man’s interpretation of such puts some things in to question. What I have found many church folk to do, is pull “pieces” of Scripture not realizing the “context” of what they are reading or saying…My word to those who are hungry…don’t be lazy, read the whole chapter and research the contextual background if you must.

Also, can someone show me where these Apostolic people get this so-called “5-Fold” ministry from. I went to my Wife’s former Pastor for a one time only Marriage counseling session and he was blabbing about him having this “5-Fold” ministry up in his church. I was like this guy couldn’t counsel me out of the 2nd Grade when it came to God’s Perspectives on Marriage.

Like Mel says, these guys are dancing the tango in line with the Catholic Church “Works for Salvation.” I grew up in that nonsense. My mother claims to be an Apostle called by God. Yet, I’m reading Scripture showing me the qualifications for a person to be an Apostle in Acts 1.

Acts 1:16-26

“16 “Brethren, the Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit foretold by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus.

17 “For he was counted among us and received his share in this ministry.”

18(Now this man acquired a field with the price of his wickedness, and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his intestines gushed out.

19 And it became known to all who were living in Jerusalem; so that in their own language that field was called Hakeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)

20 “For it is written in the book of Psalms,
‘LET HIS HOMESTEAD BE MADE DESOLATE,
AND LET NO ONE DWELL IN IT’;
and,
‘LET ANOTHER MAN TAKE HIS OFFICE.’

21 “Therefore it is necessary that of the men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us–

22beginning with the baptism of John until the day that He was taken up from us–one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.”

23 So they put forward two men, Joseph called Barsabbas (who was also called Justus), and Matthias.

24 And they prayed and said, “You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen

25 to occupy this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place.”

26 And they drew lots for them, and the lot fell to Matthias; and he was added to the eleven apostles.”

So, has my mom did either of those things? Uh, No. Therefore her claims to Apostleship are phony and she needs to repent. However, I’m not even saved in her eyes sometimes because I go to a Presbyterian Church, go figure. Well, I’ve rambled on enough….

Grace and Peace
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I have perused your site, and not to say that I have read everything, I believe that I have read enough to make the following suggestions:

1. If your concentration continues to remain “local”, then I believe that thus far, too much emphasis has been placed upon your former church. It is time for you to branch out to the other churches in your community. For example, you really hit on something where the AME Church is concerned. Consider this. Did you also know that Sun Yun Moon has infiltrated the Baptist church throughout the country? What you need to understand is that the pastor of your former church is a victim of “the Big Dogs” and his own ambition. He is not receiving any direct revelation from the Lord because he is an immitator. But is he really an imposter? I don’t know. This is where prayer for the man is important. Prayer will decidedly reveal whether he is an imposter or a true man of God who allowed himself to be deceived by “bigger dogs.” For example, he learned the false doctrine of Jesus suffering for our sins in hell from Joyce Meyer. Joyce Meyer received this doctrine from the King of the Big Dogs, Kenneth Copeland. This thing has spread like yeast throughout the word of faith world and has now hit the mainline denominations. Is it error? Yes. However, is it the most important, damnable error? No. Also, the “Oneness” Pentecostal folk. Are they in error? Most definitely. Is it a damnable error? I’m not sure. For example, I don’t hear doctrinal error in the clip that you have on the site of TD Jakes on this subject. Which leads me to my next point.

2. You need to prioritize your efforts or you will find yourself spinning your wheels over the same territory. For example, whether or not a person believes that Jesus suffered in hell will not affect their salvation. Most of us don’t fully understand the Trinity. However, to consider that Jesus, the Son is also the Father is itself, damnable. because it is the Father who sent the Son to save us, so no one can leave out the Father.

So since there is so much error, I suggest that you concentrate on those false doctrines that hinder or jeopardize a person’s salvation. In that regard, the two most outstanding problems in both the denominational and the charismatic churches is that there are countless people in church who do not understand the doctrines of repentance unto salvation and the need to believe on the physical resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. I have found that the vast majority of people in church believe that Jesus rose from the dead as a spirit. Therefore, their faith in Him is vain as Paul warned in ICorinthians 15: 1-12

3. I also recommend that to save yourself some time and some foot work that you begin to research what others are reporting so as to back up some of your statements. I believe that this is the reason why you are being viewed as “expressing your superiority” and that you appear to be somewhat highminded. Other than your friend on the west coast, you are standing alone. You need some back up. The professional way of reporting is to quote the work of others.

There are other suggestions that I could make, but I don’t want to use up the space. You and I have already had email dialogue on “the woman as pastor” issue. If you are interested in receiving more of my commentary, you know how to contact me.

I’m pleased that you find the site entertaining. It is exactly my intent that it be entertaining, as well as thought provoking.

But there are several things you really must understand. This site is not about pointing people toward Christ; at least not directly. Its primary purpose, and I will continue to say this as often as I must, is to expose the pimps and pimpettes leading his precious children (of whom I am one) into deception and wasted lives and sometimes even missing salvation to begin with.

As far using entertainment, I think you are confusing things. Being entertaining is not a sin. Presenting the Gospel in an engaging manner is not a sin. But here’s the rub: the only thing the pimps have is entertainment. They package their lies in entertaining appeals to greed and a desire for complete security, thus the promises of supernatural financial prosperity, health, and power. They use entertainment to draw people into these lies. As an example, I watch Fred KC Price. He is very entertaining; a dynamic speaker, I believe is the phrase. But the doctrine he teaches is not only lacking in truth, but people who follow it run the risk of never being born again in the first place.

I’m having some trouble seeing where I am “expressing my own superiority”; especially based on the article you are posting to. I have really said very little about me and have, I believe, consistently focused on the purveyors of untruth. And in the talking, I have pretty much specifically addressed the heresies they deal with. That can only be done by the use of Scripture. A couple of times, I have given some lists of verses. But anyone can do that with a concordance and a topical Bible. But the fact is the pimps and pimpettes depend on their audience to not do that, to not do any studying of any significance. And to not examine what they are saying in the light of Scripture.

With respect to my appreciation of God’s choosing me, I praise him everyday for choosing me. There is nothing I did to warrant it; absolutely nothing. In fact, if you will notice in the article you posted your comment to I said “But God was, apparently, too gracious to me. I ended up breaking with the crowd and pursued orthodoxy.” I recognize his graciousness not just in saving me, but in sparing me the misery of being trapped in the Word Faith wilderness. I could just as easily have gone the way of Ken Copeland, Creflo Dollar and John Jenkins (though it would be great to own my own swweeeet airplane).

But having said that, having acknowledged that “except for the grace of God, there go I”, we are still called to bring attention to those who would teach another gospel (Romans 16:17, 18). We are to contend for the truth delivered once and for all to the saints (Jude 3). That struggle for the retention of the truth of the Gospel is against those who (to use Jude’s phrase) “….have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ (Jude 4)” Paul tells us several times to take note, to mark, to bring attention to those who would teach another gospel. This site does that. It does it with Scripture (the only way to address the heresies), it does it with humor (keeping people who generally are not interested in theology and doctrine engaged), and it does it with compassion (for the ones who have been drawn in or have relatives who have been drawn into the WF and other heresies).

So remember: this site is not directly about presenting the Gospel. It is about contending for the truth of the Gospel. And contending is often bare-knuckled. It’s not something the typical, comfortable, go-to-church-on-Sunday-and-otherwise-leave-me-alone Christian has ever seen very much of. And that lack is one of the reasons the Church is in the process of being inundated with error.

I enjoyed your comments. You really seem to have thought them out. Don’t lose the passion. 01010111 is getting quite a prize.

Melvin