I keep telling all of you who will listen, that the Band of Brothers and Sisters in the “Full Gospel” circles are out for themselves. They do and say what ever will lift them up. They don’t care about following Jesus Christ in spirit or in truth. They don’t give a rat’s tail of attention to the ESSENTIALS of the faith. Their only criteria for evaluating a religious personality is to see how much money they can bring in to the organization and how much the personality’s appearance will help their attendance.
A case in point: Prophetess Juanita Bynum Reeks — I mean Weeks.
While I have never heard Prophetess Juanita (PJ) deny the doctrine of the Trinity, she hangs with folks who proudly and loudly deny the Trinity and those who talk extensive double talk to avoid being identified in one camp or the other. The blokes who come to mind immediately are Noel Jones and T. Dexter Jakes. You’ve heard Dexter as he does the Texas two-step in his non-explanation. If not, click here and give a listen.
This time she uses people’s sincere desire for a meaningful relationship with their husbands or wives to pass off one of the pimps yet again. Take a look at the ad and tell me who you see tucked away in the right-hand corner of the ad. That’s right! It’s Noel Jones!! If she is Oneness, why not say so? Most of you are going to be to dull to even care one way of the other. If she is not Oneness, why in the world would she promote a fellow who denies one of the most essential doctrines of Christianity?
On the other hand, I wouldn’t expect her to be too consistent or stable. She also hangs out with a fellow who has identified himself as a prophet. And that fellow would be the weasel from Lansing Michigan, Phillip Owens.
Give a look at some of his shenanigans. The first picture is him dressed up like the Jewish High Priest and blowing a shofar, or ram’s horn. And no, I don’t believe this is just a reenactiment of some kind. The last person I saw doing that was Belloq (you can see a picture of him and the other bad guys below) after he stole the Ark of the Covenant from Indiana Jones. Of course, he got tagged by some pretty nasty critters when all was said and done.
But look, it’s not bad enough that this bozo pulls Old Testament ceremonies into the Church, he even gets PJ involved in it. Take a look at the next picture. Who do you think that is laid out on the steps of the podium? That’s right. It’s PJ Bynum.
Of course, perhaps he called her out of the crowd and she doesn’t really support what he’s doing. You think? How would you explain the fact that she interviewed him on TBN (Terrible, Bad, and Noxious).
I understand how Elisha felt when he was talking to the Israelites and was telling them not to be halt between two choices. If doctrine is important then make decisions on based on doctrine. If doctrine is not important, then go with that.
The way things are going, it shouldn’t make any difference if the person preaching is a Jehovah’s Witness, a Mormon, or a Hindu. Apparently, the only things we have to consider are: How anointed is the speaker and how anointed is the message they give?
And if that is the sole determiner, then let’s kick this circus open and get more people into the church to share their dynamic messages. I mean, Calypso Louie (excuse me, I should call him Louis Farrakhan) does a better job of using Scripture than most of the pulpit pimps I know. And he’s honest enough to admit that he has no relationship with Jesus Christ. Yet people like Grainger Browning STILL associate with him, invite him to speak to the congregations, and call themselves mature Christians. Let’s the rest of you invite him out to speak at some of our services. Cornell West, foul-mouthed philosopher that he is, has a dynamic speaking ability. Let’s have him in too. After all Tony Compollo comes in and drops an expletive or two all the time. Why stop there? Why not invite a follower of L. Ron Hubbard. I hear Dianetics can really improve your life and give you the right attitude to have riches flowing into your life. And isn’t that the objective according to the Word Faith pimps and pimpettes?
You need to see that the pimps don’t really care about doctrine. They just don’t want to get called out by you when they ignoregood doctrine or teach faulty doctrine. And one of the ways they can avoid getting caught, is if they can convince you to stop looking, or at least stop speaking about it. And it really is working. Some of you out there say, almost as a knee-jerk reaction, such things as what this dear and probably very sincere lady said:
If you are truly about the Kingdom of Heaven business, then you will know and apply what this scripture means when Jesus says 6″Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. Matt 7.
Sheep food for sheep. Dog food for dogs. Swine food for swine. That’s the way Jesus says it is. The type of food does not transform the animal…only God knows who are sheep, and Jesus says “My sheep hear my voice. I know them and they follow me.” (John 10:27).
My advice then to you is to “know thyself.”
So let me see if I understand this. If I don’t accept a false teaching (Jesus suffering in hell, my words creating reality, the Trinity having nine persons between them), it’s because I am not a part of the Lord’s sheep. If I don’t confuse heresy with truth, then I am a dog. If I point out the heresies the pimps deliver, then I am a swine and their false teachings are pearls.
Hmmmm. I guess I’m just not seeing it.
As Romans says: “Take notice of those who teach another gospel.” That means you can’t pretend they are not teaching heresies or that people who point them out are being mean, vicious, and divisive.
touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm!!!!
you are cursing yourself for talking about the man and women of God
Yada, yada yada. Hey anonymous..turn to your neighbor and say..”Neighbor, I don’t study my bible…I just parrot what I hear from preachers and other misguided christians, whether it’s scriptural or not, whether I understand it or not.”
You don’t even know what “Touch not mine anointed” means. People crack me up when they use scriptures and don’t even know the context of it. It’s like a child stumbling onto his daddy’s gun. He’s wowed by it, he may know what it is, but God help everybody in his path INCLUDING the CHILD HIMSELF when he tries to shoot it.
Where do you attend church if you don’t mind?
(MN: All together now: Send me your e-mail address and I will send you the address. )
Hey by the way who is your Pastor because you have a lot of knowledge to condem all these preachers on here . you must have arrived and you must be perfect. and if thats the case then you go to Prophet Owens or Prophetess Weeks or any other Pastor you’re slandering and say all this stuff to the’r face. and by the way are u saved and if you are how do you know?
Anonymous, I challenge you to study that whole chapter of scripture. Psalms 105:15 has nothing to do with challenging the teachings of church leaders. The Old Testament phrase “the Lord’s anointed” in this context refers to kings since they were anointed and the phrase “prophets” are refered to the patriarchs (Abraham in particular). It is therefore debatable whether this passage can be applied to select leaders within the body of Christ. So that scripture is wholly irrelevant to the issue of questioning the teachings of any of God’s “anointed.”
Moreover, even if we accepted this misinterpretation of Psalm 105:15, how are we to know who not to “touch”; that is, who God’s anointed and prophets are? Because they and their followers say they are? On such a basis we would have to accept the claims of Sun Myung Moon and virtually all cult leaders to be prophets. If a would-be spokesperson for God cannot pass the biblical tests of character and doctrine, we have no basis for accepting his or her claim as being anointed. So we have no reason to fear that in criticizing his or her teaching we might also be rejecting God.
I think we would do better if we heed to scripture’s that gives us repeated warnings to be on guard for false teachings (1 Tim. 1:3-4; 4:16; 2 Tim. 1:13-14; Tit. 1:9; 2:1), and to point them out to believers.
This scripture is so quote out of context , i
believe when King David wrote the psalm he was refering to King Saul. Meaning he would not kill King Saul even though he had the chance.
This website is a blessing for those who know the truth and desire to grow spiritually. The unlearned and ignorant will not agree.
Matthew12:32-33.
And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Corinthians 11:14-15
And no marvel, for Satan himself is tranformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
ignorant? Oh, so you are so great! Why so much anger from people because people have differences of opinion. Oh, I get it, you are better because you are a true christian, and you are without sin.
If he/she was without sin he/she wouldn’t need Jesus Christ. Right?
To Melvin & Community:
I thought all of you should know, that today, in Arlington, Texas, Bishop Terry Hornbuckle was found guilty on 3 counts of Rape. He faces anywhere from probation up to 20 years in prison! My heart goes out to his family for sure, as they never should have been put into that kind of situation. Also, in spite of the fact he has been convicted, Terry Hornbuckle is a human being who needs our prayers and God’s grace to bring him to a place of Repentance and Restoration.
Blessings to All,
BlackTheologian
Melvin:
Just a small correction on the Hornbuckle case. He actually faces 20 years for “each” count in stead of 20 years total; things are looking good for his future.
I was thinking the same thing when I heard it yesterday. My heart goes out to his family and friends. As much as we may disagree with his practices or theology, I know no one wants to see him serve up to 20 years in prison. I was hoping he would be exonerated and maybe step down from that position but this is a sad day and a black eye for Christians. I was thinking what if he is not alone in all this.
God Loves all of so much the chastening comes. Maybe him sitting behind those bars will give him time think about his actions, and hear God for the first time in his life.
I think its said but some of us have to be put in play pins because we are yet immature.
TO ANONYMOUS: “Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money, were listening to all these things, and they were scoffing at Him [JESUS]. And He said to them, ‘You are those who justify yourselves in the sight of men, but God knows your hearts; FOR THAT WHICH IS HIGHLY ESTEEMED AMONG MEN IS DETESTABLE IN THE SIGHT OF GOD.’…But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.” Please be encouraged to read and study the WHOLE COUNSEL of God. # # #
you can come up with all of the doctrine you think you know. but keep on living. we’ll see where your life is in a few years, if you keep on putting your mouth on the people of God. you’re putting your mouth on the men and wemen of God the same way the pharisees put their mouth on jesus. oh, by the way. even the devil knows the bible so you can stop acting so educated.
nothing but a generation of vipers….keep you mouth off the people of the lord.
How odd……….and strangely appropriate………that you used the word “vipers”.
You see, all 4 times the word is used in the NT, it is used by both John The Baptist and Christ toward the Pharisees,Sadducees, and Scribes.
And why?? Because they twisted Scripture for their own purposes and led astray of the flock of God.
You use it against us for doing exactly as Christ did in confronting heresy, but He used it to describe those who act precisely the same as those whom you defend.
Can you see the irony?? I doubt it……..
you need to take your own advice
prophet: a person who speaks for God or a god as though under divine guidance. i don’t think abraham is the only person God is speaking through.
Correct………and how do we know that God was indeed speaking through Abraham?? DOCTRINE. How do we know that He is not speaking through the pimps?? DOCTRINE.
The Word was given as a light and a lamp to illuminate the Way. It is designed to shine the light of wisdom and discernment upon the words and ways of men, lest we be deceived.
If these men say that Jesus did not pay for our sins on the cross, or that He did not walk the earth as God, or that He was born again in hell……….they are NOT speaking for God. He does not contradict His Word. They do. Case closed.
question, why did miriam (moses, the prophet ,sister) get slapped with leprosy? after you anwser this question take a look in the mirror.
I think you have too much time on your hands.
The sheer Biblical ignorance displayed here is saddening…..and clear evidence of the necessity of this site.
My dear brave Anonymous, was Moses putting out false doctrine, and was that offense the cause of Miriam’s diatribe and subsequent punishment?? No…….
I don’t blame you though for doing what you have seen your pimp-idols do a million times……….wrest a verse out of context and shove it violently against its meaning to fit a preconceived notion. I really hope however that we can disabuse you of the notion that this is the proper way to read the Holy Writ.
Here’s something we heard a lot when we studied the Word.
A text out of context serves only a pretext ( an excuse for a hidden agenda……..like the acquisition of money or power).
We’ll let that marinate a bit and move on…….
So…….what we would have to do (to avoid wrongly dividing the Word as you have by using an example that has nothing to do with what the site or the issue at hand is about) is find a Scripture that DOES deal with your supposition…….which, I believe, is that God will punish whomever raises a voice against ministers whether their teaching is false or not.
Fortunately for you, there exists just such an example in Scripture.
Open your Bible (it’s the dusty black book you use to even out the short leg on your nightstand) to Gal 2:11
ΒΆ But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
Gal 2:13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
Gal 2:14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before [them] all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?”
Now………I am going to sashay boldly out onto a limb and assume that you believe that Peter was a man of God……..correct??
Well then……..here we have Paul calling Peter out for incorrect doctrine before the whole church, because he taught the wrong doctrine before the whole church (being careful to note here that while this episode illustrates that Peter too was a man subject to error, he wrote infallibly when he was inspired according to 2Pe 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost..)
This leaves you in quite the Scriptural conundrum on a few levels.
Firstly, Peter was called out before the church. Yet, there are no recorded cries of “Touch not My anointed” from either Peter, or the church. Now, there seems little doubt that Peter was indeed anointed in the accepted way the word is used today.
Why wasn’t Paul rebuked?? Indeed, it seems the correction was humbly accepted by Peter. No arguing…..no rift…..no cloak of untouchability.
Yet, when we address ministers who at best have pretty nebulous credentials for their “anointing” (certainly they cannot claim the degree that Peter walked in after having been an apostle, and having written Scripture, n’est ce pas??) you deride us for it.
Why?? You do not do as Paul did, and address doctrinal flaws or the heresies taught by these pimps. No, you simply fly off the handle and defend obvious heresy. We are confronting false teaching just as Paul did.
Secondly, if your Moses scenario was relevant, shouldn’t Paul have been struck down by God for daring to “touch God’s anointed”??? I mean, Miriam got leprosy for “touching” Moses, right??
Well……….the least Paul should have gotten was a holy hangnail, or sanctified sciatica. Maybe the heartbreak of psoriasis???
In other words, if confronting ministers about incorrect doctrine leads to being struck down by God, surely Paul was guilty and should have been struck as well if God indeed is no respecter of persons.
But he wasn’t, was he?? Of course not. In fact, God through Paul demands such confrontation in the Word, and since He in His omniscience knew that folks such as yourself would wrongly divide the Word, He graciously provided the Scriptural example we just studied. Wasn’t that nice??
Thirdly,
What you will NOT find in Scripture is the admonition to let the sheep be fleeced and slaughtered while the Teflon Anointed go unchallenged. God hates this spiritual caste system that elevates some as superspiritual and “anointed” at the expense of the flock. Read Rev 2, and know that the Nicolaitans were those who assumed an elevated status above the flock as spiritual “superstars”. Sound familiar??
You can read the postings of the voluminous verses of Scripture already cited to see that we are indeed to confront false teaching. I won’t bore you by re-posting them all since you can read them for yourself by simply scrolling upward or across any number of other threads.
Besides……….you better get your Bible back under that table leg before your autographed copy of Benny Hinn’s “Good Morning Holy Spirit” slides off the top and breaks your TBN nightlight.
NCW, you sound like a person that do not follow leadership. if you don’t know who God’s anointed is then you don’t know your bible. i’m a sheep… not a goat that bucks the men and wemen of God.
Anonymous,
I would respectfully suggest that you perhaps miss some things within the Bible. You said: If you don’t know who God’s anointed is then you don’t know your Bible.” But there is a problem with that statement. According to John, we all have an anointing. I am God’s anointed, you are God’s anointed, and if any of the pimps are actually born again, as many of them as are born again, they are God’s anointed.
Do me a favor - show me in the Bible where some great “anointing” is attributed to some church members and not to others. Church member being defined as a person who is born again.
“Church member being defined as a person who is born again.” What does this mean? Just because you’re a church memeber doesn’t mean you’re born again.
Dear Anonymous:
The comments by Gary V are profound and factual! Your response, on the other hand is very weak. So, if you challenge the false teachings of your pastor, then you are not a good follower?? The people who followed Jim Jones did that, and they drank “Kool-Aid” that killed them! I’m really trying to be nice, but your response at best is stupid.
BT
When I see and read people refer to folks like “Dr” Dollar, TD Jokes, and prophetless Bynum as “men and women of God,” it sadly reminds me of how the Israelites demanded that Moses be the man to speak to God for them, and not they themselves. We put so much stock in a preacher’s ability to reach God, or to “get a prayer through,” or to be able to “lead them to the promised land,” for many different reasons. I don’t think that christians today are any different than the Israelites who wandered in the wilderness for 40 years. And later, when God wanted to be their leader, they balked at the notion and instead wanted an earthly king to rule over them so that they could be like the other nations. Even when Samuel told them that a king would make their lives miserable, they nonetheless insisted that they did NOT want God to lead them. Sad, isn’t it? There are so many people who would lay down their spiritual lives over one faulty, imperfect person who claims to be “anointed” above everyone else, REGARDLESS of whether they’re speaking truth or not.
When Jesus gave up the ghost on the cross, the veil of the temple was torn in half from top to bottom. How many people realize the significance of this occurrance? As long as the veil of the temple was intact, prior to the sacrifice of our Lord, no one besides the high priest was allowed to enter the holy place in the temple to make sacrifices for the people, and the priest had to make sure that he followed God’s instructions TO THE LETTER when carrying out the sacrifices to God, and if he didn’t, he would fall down dead. This was a YEARLY procedure that the priests had to accomplish. But when the veil was torn, thus making the holy place accessible, the significance is that EVERYONE can come to the throne of grace, or into GOD’S PRESENCE, and that the sacrifice has been made ONCE AND FOR ALL, and we ALL have access to God, hence, the apostle John declaring that we ALL are anointed, we ALL have an anointing from the holy One and we don’t need ANYONE to teach us, as that anointing teaches us about all things and that anointing is real, not counterfeit(I John 2:27). All of us..specifically, all of God’s people, are MEN AND WOMEN OF GOD. The “anointing” is NOT just a thing that is exclusive to televangelists, and NOT just your pastor or self-proclaimed “bishop.” Just because you wear a long flowing robe(Luke 20:46,47) while you stand in the pulpit telling people to turn to their neighbor and repeat what you tell them, it does NOT make you anointed. Just because you have authored several best-selling books, it does NOT make you “anointed.” Just because you have 5 doctorates and can speak hebrew, greek, AND pig latin fluently, it does NOT make you “anointed.” Just because you have speaking engagements and “minister” to thousands and thousands of people, it does NOT make you “anointed.” Just because you say, “The Lord spoke to me and told me…”, it does NOT make you anointed. Why we give these people such power, such sole ability to touch the heart of God, such RULE over us, is beyond me. Why when someone calls these people’s doctrine and preaching to the carpet, you get your anonymous people coming on this site to their pimps assistance(Kinda like…a “hoe?”), and shouting “touch not mine anointed,” and calling us blasphemous, is an utter travesty, and a sad testament to the condition of Christ’s church today.
So, when you read in the Old Testament about the children of Israel shouting, “We don’t want God to rule over us, we want a king to rule over us so that we can be like the other nations”, remember that nothing much has changed since then.
Deejai - Mind if I use T. Dexter Jokes occasionally? I love it!!
Be my guest, Brother Melvin! Glad you like that!
Anonymous, that’s not a good assessment of sheep and goat. In Matthew 25:31 Jesus uses that scripture as a metaphor to distinguish the saved and the unsaved in the world, so a follower wouldn’t be a goat if he/she challenge a leader’s questionable teaching. The poor sheep’s in trouble if they don’t.
This web site is blasephemy! What a shame. All I can do is pray for anyone of condemns or speak against a true man and women of God. I’ll let God handle this. I also like to know what teaching you are under- who is your pastor? or perhaps you don’t think you need one!
(MN: Interesting that you would use the term “blaspheny.” (Click Here) I trust you are aware of what that term means and how it is used? If that is the case, please provide an example of the blasphemy. Or at least tell me which of the subjects are “sacred beings.” )
What a wack site!!! This is the most ignorant site I have ever seen. Melvin Jones or who ever you are I will call you a “hoe” since you call these men of God pimps. Ok hoe?
(MN: Actually, it’s ‘ho’, a shortened version of whore, a person who is sexually promiscuous, person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain; or a prostitute, the primary characteristic being one who engages in sexual activity for pay and brings the money to her pimp. You just called me a garden tool, the one a person uses to break up the soil.
In what sense have I compromised on my principles? Or why do you say I am sexually promiscuous? And more importantly, what is “wacked” about the site? What, in particular, makes you think it is ignorant? Did I get something wrong?
I’m also not quite clear on why you say “whoever you are.” )
God bless you hoe. And I pray that God touch your hurt heart. I don’t want you to think I am being ignorant because I keep calling you a hoe but I figure I can call you that since you call these men who have names pimps. Ok hoe? God bless… lol..
(MN: Sounds more like mindless rage than righteous indignation. You must attend The Empowerment Temple of Doom. Either that or you are a disciple of Juanita Bind’em. That’s the only reason I could see for such a mindless display of ignorance as you are showing.
Besides, if I am doing such an awful thing, why would you invoke God’s blessing in my life?
–ROTFLMBO )
Oops sorry “Ho” well I will call you a “ho” because you can talk about these men and still have enough respect and call them by their given names and also the church that they lead. When you call a church out of name you are clearly talkling about the people who attend there. And I don’t think you know all of thier names so just say what you want but make sure its in love. And stop name calling ok hoe?… Oops my bad I mean “ho” a shortened version of whore, a person who is sexually promiscuous, person considered as having compromised principles for personal gain; or a prostitute, the primary characteristic being one who engages in sexual activity for pay and brings the money to her pimp. Yeah that’s the right one thanks.
Melvin:
It’s been awhile since my last posting, but I see that the children are still very much “The Young & The Restless”. For all of the folks who broadcast condemnation for this site… Listen up!!!
Before you post a rant because your pastor was put on blast on this site for things THEY have taught, sold, and or said… Your real beef, if you have one, is with them, and not with Melvin, nor the people of this site.
The Bible demands for us to… “Let your light so shine so that men might see.” We are to be light in darkness… The problem with bringing things to the light… you have to see it for what it is and quite frankly, to borrow a line from cuz’n Jack “you can’t handle the truth!”
Question: What do you call a “Defense Attorney for a Pimp”? A PIMP!!! Duh…
You don’t have to travel to the church to find the pimps and pimpettes… Just look in the mirror. How much time have you fleeced from the Lord… Come on 10% quoters… Where you at???
Have you gave the Lord 10% of your time??? 2.4 hours everyday…
Not just on Sundays and maybe midweek.
Don’t just stop at the money pit… Money is just the attribute… Check out the root…. Check out the source…
The movie RENT says there are 525,600 minutes in a year… Do you give God (52,560) minutes every year. (For my math delinquents, that totals 2 hours 24 minutes at a minimum.) If you give God just that, you won’t go off the deep end about truth… And if the Spirit of God is actually residing in you, you’ll know that the anointing is the same, the appointment is just different and that was decided by God, not man… Remember… it is God (the Holy Spirit) that gives men gifts, according to his ability.
So, before anymore — let me make sure I got this right (”…touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm”) scripture quotes are made, first make sure you fully understand the Hermeneutics of the text so that you can rightfully divide the word of truth.
The funny thing about it… Probably before your Pastor’s name hit the most wanted list… You were probably one of the many cheerleaders of the site, until of course, your anointed pastor got some light on them…
Bro. Melvin… Gotta run.. Keep up the good work… Keep on shining the light… Trust me bro… If people would spend more time in “Kneeology” vs “Twisted Theology”, maybe, just maybe, some of these pimps would “…humble themselves and pray and seek His face… Then God said… He would hear from heaven, forgive them of their sins, and heal there land…” (2 Chr 7:14)
For the rest of you who are dubbed as a “Pimp Defender” Gotta go… Bank account a little low… Must rub off some more anointing from the pimps… order my prayer cloth… get my lucky charm out, lay hands on myself, be made whole and start chanting in tongues for the Holy Spirit to slay me… and After I wake up… I’ll be sure to give your personal Pimp all the praise, honor and glory… cause truly that’s he/she wants that more than your money…
Just some thoughts… BTW… Satan wanted the same thing. (Isa. 14:14)
Peace and blessings.
Oh shut up concerned christian and hop off!!! My pastor was not put on display so now what? You big dummy… Oops I am sorry maybe I should call you by your name. Question who made you guys the light to darkness? If you are going to be the light then be a light I think you guys can do the same thing your are doing but in love and not in spite. Don’t you think? Why the dumb picture? Why the name calling? Did Jesus call people pimps who did wrong? or did he call people out of their name when they did him wrong? I don’t know but I would call you out of your name but then again its not posted…. hmmmmm I wonder why. Won’t you shed some light on your real name Melvin had enough guts to do it so why don’t you? At least I can respect brother melvin for at least putting his name up. Maybe I should say my name then it would make me that much better than you…. or maybe not cause you really don’t mean that much to me. I don’t know but just do it out of love guys come on….
Wacksite, I really enjoy reading your posts! They are HILARIOUS! Kind of reminds me of a little kid throwing a temper tantrum! You talk about doing things out of “love” and then tell someone to “shut up and hop off?” Interesting. And to answer your question “Did Jesus call people out of their name when they did him wrong?” Well, that depends whether or not any of the scribes or pharisees that he spoke to were named “Snake”, or “serpent”, or…maybe one or two among the group he was talking to were named “fool”, or, maybe when He was referring to King Herod in Luke 13:32, he was calling him by his LAST name “jackal?”
King Solomon said it best in Proverbs 23:9…”Speak not in the ears of a fool:for he will despise the wisdom of your words.” Wacksite is absolutely harmless. Just sit back and enjoy the rantings of a fool.
for some sick reason, i was expecting some explitives to slip out in one of Wacksites posts. You know now-a-days, is common for so-called “God’s people” to cuss with regularity. Just like they smoke, drink liquor, Preach in drag (See Tyler Perry and TBN) and endulge in many other vices that is clearly of the world. But, with that said i suppose we shouldn’t judge, and just keep quiet.. Interesting
Wacksite…
Brother please… Calm it down a notch. Let’s try and calmly address each of your points…
Point #1 — Oh shut up concerned christian and hop off!!!
Response: Knee Jerk Reaction (KJR) — Shut up… That’s incredibly harsh don’t you think??? I mean really… Would you tell you pastor to shut up??? If not, then would you tell any of the ministers of your church to shut up??? What about the deacons??? Ok, my point is… if you wouldn’t dare think of telling them to shut up, why in the world would you tell another part of the body to shut up??? Do you tell you feet to shut up??? What about your hands??? Does the term one body in Christ Jesus mean anything to you??? Before you answer that, immediately reject the notion that people, who say they are called by God, to minister to His people not theirs, can directly identify themselves with the Pastors called out in Jer. 23 (Read it… It’ll bless you!)
Point #2 — My pastor was not put on display so now what?
Response — As far as your pastor goes, I hope he never makes the list. I pray that he is an upright and steadfast man of the cloth. I pray that his preaching/teaching not only is biblically sound (that would be that he’s hermeneutically correct and homiletically applicable for today’s living), but also lives his own life according to the same principles he preaches and teaches on.
Point #3 — You big dummy… Oops I am sorry maybe I should call you by your name.
Response , Rant… No response necessary. Is there a biblical principle here… Uhmm.. No…
Point #4 , Who made you guys the light to darkness?
Response , Jesus did. Matt. 5:14-15
14″You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. 15Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.
Point #5 — If you are going to be the light then be a light I think you guys can do the same thing your are doing but in love and not in spite. Don’t you think?
Response , Why when we repeat or highlight or make an observation about the folks listed here, it’s a problem, or deemed not in love??? You have to remember, these folks made the comments… These folks got high, cheated on the wife, etc… These folks are giving the people of God a different gospel. Paul told the Churches in the region of Galatia: “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” (Gal. 1:8)
Point #6 — Why the dumb picture? Why the name calling?
Response , Ask Melvin, He’s the owner of the blog. My personal feeling is, to be humorous. Pretty good job at it too… ROTFLMBO!!! Hello Peggy Sue… Stop It..
Point #8 - Did Jesus call people pimps who did wrong? or did he call people out of their name when they did him wrong?
Response , What about when Jesus called them vipers (Matt. 3:7; 12:34 & 23:33… Or when the servant was called “wicked and lazy” (Matt. 25:26)… I guess even the Lord called people out.
Point #9 — I don’t know but I would call you out of your name but then again its not posted…. hmmmmm I wonder why. Won’t you shed some light on your real name Melvin had enough guts to do it so why don’t you? At least I can respect brother melvin for at least putting his name up. Maybe I should say my name then it would make me that much better than you…. or maybe not cause you really don’t mean that much to me.
Response , Your name, nor mine is really not important… If I gave you my name, would you know who I was??? Would you believe that was my real name??? No… And vice-versa… Just as a point of reference… The Bible omits the name on a majority of the instances… Woman at the well, man at the pool of Bethesda, woman with the issue of blood, Ten Lepers…. Why? Because the name is not the emphasis, the situation and the response(s) to the situation is the emphasis.
Conclusion: I don’t know but just do it out of love guys come on…
Finally, as far as your anger is concerned… Don’t be angry with me… I have done no harm to you nor do I personally know you. If merely pointing out facts about people who should have a higher standard than their flock makes you angry… Good it should… But turn your anger towards those who are leading folks astray… Turn your righteous indignation towards those brood vipers… Shift your focus from popularity… To what truly saith the Lord…
Just some thoughts…
Peace & Blessings
Oh please you people If you can call these ministers out their name then I can call you out of yours. Based on what you wrote I don’t got any of you people going to these peoples church and calling them Pimps. or Willow boy or whatever else. So please don’t judge me cause I am doing the same thing that you are. Now I only did that to try to get you guys to understand where I was coming from and by your response I see my mission was accomplished. Now This is a Wacksite it will always be a wacksite and This so called list that you have is really interesting. Anything anyone says can be argued by any biblical scripture. So please enough with all the verse this and verse that. Cause pimp aint in the Bible or is it? Someone please help me out on this one. And then you say I am being a knee jerk. Well what is what you write and post up. The rude pictures. So are you telling me that everyone who I believe is not of God I should post silly looking pictures of them up to get my point across????? Silly, silly, silly… And thats what this site is silly and wack!!! lol!!! Praise the Lord!!!
Deejai,
You’re right. Wack Site is very amusing. In fact, as long as he/she rants on the way he/she is ranting right now, I will continue to post him/her if only as a lesson to the rest of you. This person seems to embody all the qualities of the more easily pimped. Their argument illustrates why the pimps can stay in business.
There appears to be absolutely no connection between doctrine and ministry in his/her mind. There appears to be no connection between thought and doctrine. It is as if Concerned Christian (CC) never made the outstanding presentaion CC did. Wack Site continued to say the exact same things, failing to address anything that has been said.
I almost suspect Wack Site is one of the pimps I discuss on the site. I imagine most of them are completely unaccustomed to having to defend their damaging doctrines and can only come up with the same old saws over and over again, counting on people to defend them, no matter what.
Is that it Wack Site? Are you one of the pimps, unable to put an argument together and forced to do a two step. You even included the weak defense of “Anybody can make the Bible say anything.”
By the way, a person isn’t a knee jerk. A person has a knee jerk reaction.
Finally, I’m telling you that you should get as far away from every preacher you believe is not of God. My job is to warn you about them. Your job is to study your Bible and to live a life in obedience to Christ. And part of that means avoiding the wolves (and other names that Jesus and company called the pimps I write about).
Hahahahaha you people crack me up and I really am happy you feel about me the way you do. But I mean I am just challenging what you are doing. How many people get saved on this site? or is that not the purpose? You people are so concerned about Doctrine, doctrine, but what about souls being saved. (MN: No. There are more than enough sites out there that talk about how to get saved. Every once in a while we will even cover it. This site is here to warn poor sheep like you away from the wolves and pimps) Is that the only thing that is threatening the church, doctrine? I really don’t believe so. Melvin maybe you should make a website on how to get saved since you are doing what the bible tells us to do. Or is just this one topic the most important? I really don’t know so please help me out. I mean I think you guys are tearing the “Church” down by doing what you are doing in the method of which you are doing it. I believe you can do things in love and kindness. Just like me telling “Concerned Christian” (CC) to shut up. I did that out of love… Hahahahahaha.. help me out brother Melvin, or (CC)… lol!!!! Praise Him!!!! (MN: I’m beginning to suspect that there is no help for you. Your thinking definitely seems very twisted and not very tightly connected to reality. For instance, how can you say doctrine isn’t important when it is doctrine - teachings from the Bible - that explain salvation. You can’t tell someone how to be saved without dealing in doctrine. Bad doctrine - no salvation. And yes, bad doctrine is the only thing that threatens the church. Persecution doesn’t. It only makes the church stronger. )
We must pray, pray, pray. For all of Gods children.
Wacksite…
You’re absolutely, positively correct as it relates to the word “Pimp” not being in the Bible… But let me ask you… Do you believe in the “Trinity”??? Cause that’s not in the bible either… But the premise is.
Just some thoughts….
Peace & Blessings
Melvin love what you are doing. Most of these guys get angry and upset, because they love the man more than they love God, and so they have been blinded. I used to be the same way, before God opended my eyes to the fact that I was being pimped in the church I was in as well. I do the same things you do on different sites to try and help people not be fleeced by these guys, but to no avail, I get called out of my name all the time. if you want to stop by one of these sites, please do, the one I’m standing for truth the most on is a site called dasouth.com, it’s a supposed gospel hip hop site, but any and everything is ok, from HHH artist collabing with secular artist, to christian artist being ok with singing (what they term) positive music which doesnt glorify God. Come give me some support, it’s a huge fight out here dealing with hereisy.
Peace
BINKS
You have stated that some have failed to rightly divide the truth. I would like to submit a scripture that no one can dispute. Ps 34:14 “Depart from evil, and do good, seek peace; and pursue it. ” We should invest more of our time praying that every individual, and every pastor, apostle, evangelist, prophet, and teacher would strive to fulfil this scripture.
(MN: So people who are sitting under a man preaching heresies should depart from that evil. What I do is warn the sheep about the preachers of heresies so the poor sheep can depart and do good [by not giving money and enabling the evil doers]. And every christian (pastor, apostle, evangelist, prophet, and teacher) should be willing to do this when necessary. You’re right. no one could dispute this. That’s why I do what I do.)
There is nothing that I could say that would ever change the opinion of any one that reads this comment. The only reason I even made a comment is because I could never read anything of this magnitude and not refute such bold accusations. This site may be helpful to others but I will not return in the future because it is not edifying to my spirit. My final comment is this: The language of your opinions and the method is not peaceful. It should be noted that opinions are not based on truth, but is best to know the whole story before making a judgement. Who knows what a pastor is preaching unless they watch or listen to them, numerous times, directly? This site stand by its purpose (whatever that is) and we stand by our purpose (and we know what that is). But saved or unsaved, christian or jew, nobody likes when people talk about their family. And right or wrong the church is supposed to be a family. As bad as a “dead beat” dad (or mom) is that child still loves and believes the best for his/her parent. Prayer is the weapon that changes things. Not words that are as sharp as daggers.
Dear Setaside……….these are NOT accusations. These are the ACTUAL words and teachings of these “ministers” taken from their own websites, writings, and wagging tongues.
Peace is the result of unity. There can be no unity with heresy. The fact that you cannot see the deviations from Biblical orthodoxy leads me to assume that “Setaside” is not youir name, but a description of what you have done with Scripture.
I really feel sorry for people like ‘whacksite’. I’m hazarding a guess that he’s a teenager who obviously have been failed by his parents, the education system and his pastor.
His posting style is basic at best, reflecting a poor education and lack of care and desire to present himself as anything other than the reject he/ she is.
Note: learn some basic grammar.
The fact that most every rebuttal goes over his head and that he is merely ‘aping’ what he ‘thinks’ he sees is cause for dismay. He has no desire to even calm down to realize that he isn’t ‘doing what we’re doing’. I’d would attest that he knows not a thing he’s read in the bible, having been spoon fed scripture from someone else replete with distorted context.
And, if he is truely a born again Christian, I’d doubt he’d ever become a mature Christian…but, I’m sure I could be proven wrong. Maybe ‘Whacksite’ will approach the presented rebuttals and arguments with an open mind and a desire to review exactly what the Word says. Rather than just spew the nonsense he is and think himself smart. Serioisly, everyone here already knew what you were trying to do in your 1st post. It just don’t hold any water as it’s not the same thing.
You are absolutely right. It still amazes me how you can clearly (in context) present where someone is teaching blatant error and their followers choose to defend them over the word of God. As believers our differences should always be contextual.Which gives us the opportunity to go to scripture for clarity.
Thorn….you shouldn’t feel sorry for wacksite because the warnings are right before his eyes (Jeremiah 6:10). I believe anybody who comes to this site doesn’t stumble on it by accident. When I first came across this site I thought it was a wack-site too but I understood how to run to my bible to objectively challenge blog post with scripture. Its obvious wacksite doesn’t know how to objectively study God’s word. He talks about challenging this site but has yet to state his case supported with scripture. He’s going back and forth trying to win an argument with no case. This site isn’t about trying to win an argument it’s about trying to save a soul that has been challenged through scripture. Hey wacksite, pick up your bible, study it and allow God’s words to come to you objectively, accept His word subjectively in the right way by responding to it practically.
God Bless You
Well Thorn the name is Wacksite not “Whacksite”. You can think what you want about me, that I am a teenager or whatever else. I really don’t care. I feel that this is an immature site. Instead of sitting here talking about all the “pimps” in the pulpit why don’t you go and spread some gospel to people. I mean Brother Melvin doesn’t need any sidekicks. He can maintain the site by himself. He states that his goal is to worn the flock. Now after you have been warned either take action or don’t. Why keep on rambling on about how wrong these men of God are? Go and offer Christ to someone. I mean we have more duties then just to call out the wrong doings of pastors. Thorn before you come at me check yourself. Read your bible!!! LOL!!!! OK Rev?….hahahahahaha I crap myself up. But just stating what I feel. Not facts just an opinion… I will return, Funny Melvin???
(MN: Sad more than funny. But just out of curiousity, what makes you think I don’t tell people about Jesus Christ. The two actions are not mutually exclusive. By the way, I also arm the flock with facts about the idiotic things the pimps do and their pimped flocks accept. I talk about the results of not calling the pimps out on the carpet [Hornbuckle and other], and I talk about the gangers of not callng them out. The site is not static. Even this discussion helps people to see how the average church goer who doesn’t study his bible is at risk. It’s a lab in shich subjects voluntarily come in to be examined and tested for pimpological infections and on who we can test various inoculations. It’s a place where we can see the real effects of the trash they preach on real people. That is partiallly why folks aren’t much upset with you. They know you simply can’t help yourself because you really don’t know and haven’t been trained any better. However, you have been warned and you really need to stop with the out of place “LOLs” and “HAHAHAs” and see if you can actually answer, from scripture, some of the challenges that have been put before you. )
I would just like to know who hurt you?
Because it is evident in this entire website
It’s not about who hurt us Concerned………it’s about who is GETTING hurt by these deceivers. It’s about being a doer of the Word, and exposing the wolves so that the flock may be spared.
All this incessant jabberring about “love” from the duped, yet not an iota of genuine Biblical love for those who are being led astray.
Pathetic…..
Well HAHAHAHAHAHA, and LOL!!!! There I g again huh Melvin? Nobody hurt me Concerned, thanks for asking though… LOL!!!! But anyway I don’t think me calling out scripture will help you understand my point of view, Many people have already given you enough scripture but you continue to base your opinion and theory off of what you think. “what makes you think I don’t tell people about Jesus Christ.”(melvin) Well I don’t see it on here anywhere. Clearly there is more bashing and more munipulating on here then anything. Thanks for the warnings!!!! LOL!!! OOps there I go again. You tend to keep on saying that I have not been trained or taught better by my pastor, or whatever you say. I don’t think that this website was God driven, it my have been driven by a god but it was not God. I guess you are gonna need some scripture to back that up huh? Oh boy getting late and I have to go… But I will be back, Enjoyed the show… Hahahahahaha… LOL!!! Sorry melvin I had to do it…
Melvin it is so funny but you prolly wont believe me but I know you. Hahahaha Funny? How you son and your wife? I I just looked at that rediculous picture of you and I saw that big beard of yours the next thing I could remember were those big old thick glasses you used to wear but that was a long time ago.I remember your children, I think it was 3 boys right? All of them tall like their daddy. Hey man I didn’t know it was you who was running this site. LOL!!!! Man that is funny….. Hey maybe one day you can visit my church and we can meet and chat. I am think I am going to visit some of these churches you have on here so I can see what you are talking about. I live in Florida now so I will d my best to explore we shall see. Just thought I would say so…. Be back soon,
(Melvin’s Note: Unless someone disagrees, between consistently bad spelling and grammar, the “go nowhere” statements, and the generally poor and repetitious argument, this is probably going to be the last posting by Wacked - er, I mean Wacksite. He’s fun to read, but he’s not enough fun to give him any more time and effort. )
I agree with you, Melvin. One can look at a child’s silly behavior and call it “cute” for only so long. After awhile, it’s time to sit the child down for his nap. Wacksite is an antagonist…nothing more, nothing less. And it borders the pathetic to read this person talking about “telling people about Jesus Christ”, when his actions and words reveal him/her to be a tree with rotten fruit. Even if wacksite DOES “tell people about Jesus”, it’s highly likely that people can see through any facade he/she raises and say, “no, thanks.”
Also, it is SO funny that people will say that this website isn’t “God-driven”, and yet, their sorry behinds cannot help but keep on coming around. It’s kinda like Jesus’ enemies in the bible…the RELIGIOUS folk…seems like they’d keep writing him off as an uneducated carpenter, a wine-bibber, a blasphemer, a friend of sinners, but yet and still, they COULDN’T STAY AWAY FROM HIM! I know this much, if I visited a website that I thought wasn’t “God-driven”, why the heck would I keep frequenting it????????
Think about that, wacksite, and all you other people who are resistant to this site.
It was a nice run, wacksite. You’ve entertained quite a few people here. Now, go lay down, little fella, it’s naptime.
(MN: And with that we say “Nighty night” to Wacksite. Of course, if he/she says something different, I’ll put it up. But for now Wacksite - eat your cookie, drink your juice, and take a nap. )
Not a moment too soon Mel my friend. It’s one thing to engage someone on an intellectual or spiritual level…….separate the wheat from the chaff and have productive debate. But to be subjected to such utter drivel is a waste of bandwidth.
HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Must go to Rodney Howwierd Browne’s church.
Let’s hear you bark like a dog next……….it’ll be the most intelligent utterance you’ve managed thusfar……..
LOL!!!!! @ melvin’s comment. nighty night.LOL! LOL!!! ! HaHaHaHa!! eat your cookie,and drink your juice LOL LOL!!! HAHAHAHA!!! take a nap.LOLROFLOL!!! HAHAHAHA!!! ok,ok just kidding lol. i startd feeling like the joker or a hyena. peace
See ya Wacksite!!! I told you they would come here Melvin.
Wow….I am catching up on some of these “ancient” posts and these are extremely sad…but I am sorry, because of the words/spelling/grammar/punctuation….I am trying to compose myself from laughing at “Wacksite” too much…ohh…his responses are too, too funny.