Are you telling me that I was wrong about what you were getting at??

Darn…I thought I had it.

I have to applaud you, brother. You are handling our newest Internet Tough Guy, Yeah Right, with the love of Jesus.

I am praying that your buddy, Yeah Right will change his tune—and repent of his sins—before he gets his shot before the Great White Throne.

Regards,
Peter.

“I got Shingles. For those of you who don’t know what it is, think of it as a second helping of Chicken Pox, a very painful second helping of Chicken Pox, emphasizing the “pox” part. I can tell you from personal experience when someone declares a pox upon you and your family, he means for you to be hurting.

But even with this, I have to say that all comes from the hand of God, either for correction, for training, or for strengthening. ”

ME:

“Man, I’ll bet you wish Jeebus didn’t “love” you so much that he’d (give/let you get) shingles to prove it.

(Why can’t Jeebus EVER find a non-anguishing way to “love”us?”

That’s just it. You ARE confused. And if I have to explain this, there is no point in “explaining it, because you’ll never “get it”.

(Until you break free).

(MN: I guess the reason I was confused is Jesus certainly has non-anguishing ways to love us - and the unsaved as well. Every breath you draw is evidence of His love [or at least His patience]. WIth respect to lousy things happening to us, it is, as Robert noted, the means He uses to work perseverance, patience, and a host of other things in our lives. Those anguishing things also give us the experience and ability to help others in the same circumstance.

But if being loved by Jeebus is something I need to break free of, I will, as the writer says in Romans 6, remain a slave to righteousness. )

As we learn HOW things work, we eliminate God each time because all those superstitious cretins who wrote the bible weren’t nearly as smart as modern scientists.

Yeah right….did I accurately state what you were getting at?

He also probably wants you to slow down (in a VERY PAINFUL way) to think about some aspects of your life.

Or it could even be this:

“Shingles is a skin rash caused by the same virus that causes chickenpox.

This virus is called the Varicella zoster virus (VZV) and is in the Herpes family of viruses.

After an individual has chickenpox, this virus lives in the nervous system and is never fully cleared from the body.

Under certain circumstances, such as emotional stress, immune deficiency (from AIDS or chemotherapy), or with cancer, the virus reactivates and causes shingles.

In most cases of shingles, however, a cause for the reactivation of the virus is never found (See Jeebus).

Anyone who has ever had chickenpox is at risk for the development of shingles, although it occurs most commonly in people over the age of 60. It has been estimated that up to 1,000,000 cases of shingles occur each year in the U.S.”

http://www.medicinenet.com/shingles/article.htm
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Man, I’ll bet you wish Jeebus didn’t “love” you so much that he’d (give/let you get) shingles to prove it.

(Why can’t Jeebus EVER find a non-anguishing way to “love”us?

(MN: Maybe I’m just a little slow, being one of those followers of Jeebus, but I do believe I and others making comments that Shingles is exactly as you described it. The rest of your comment is somewhat indecipherable. )

(MN: Did God bring the shingles into my life to humble me? I’d like to think not. )

I’m logging on again for the first time since I wrote this.

I almost fell out of my chair laughing at your reply. I promise I won’t start any arguments.

Peace & blessings to you.

ru

This is what happens when you fail to see any continuity between the covenants of God. God isn’t changing up his mind every 1000 years or so - we have a progressive revelation of God’s plan throughout history.

Rickey, I recommend you pick my man O. Palmer Robertson’s Christ of the Covenants and quit this nonsense of dividing up what God ain’t divided up.

When does a will come into effect? While the testator is still breathing or when he assumes room temperature (also referred to as dying)? Answer that in reference to the New Covenant of Jeremiah 31 and maybe you might begin to see the problem with your system of thought…

(MN: So is Melvin! )

Galatians 3:13 is another example.

The curse of the law can be found in Deuteronomy 28.

Hebrews 13:8 shows that Jesus never changes. Therefore since He healed all who would believe during His earthly ministry then healing is available to every believer now.

(MN: Jesus never changes. Let’s see. The Word was with God (and He was a spirit). He was born as an infant, flesh and blood (a change). He grew (changed) into an adult of flesh and blood. He died (a big change) as a man of flesh and blood. He took on a resurrected body (another change). For someone who doesn’t change, Jesus sure did change a lot. Oh wait - maybe the change the writer of Hebrews is talking about doesn’t deal with different ways of doing thigs. Maybe it’s talking about His character, His attributes. You may want to rethink the “He’s the same yesterday, today, and forever. )

Acts 10:38 says that Jesus went about doing good and healing ALL who were oppressed of the devil….

Since Jesus is the same now as He was then then He is still in the healing business.
The healings He did through out the Gospels are examples/proof of what He is willing to do for those who would believe Him. Believe Jesus according to the word of God.

When does a will come into effect? While the testator is still breathing or when he assumes room temperature (also referred to as dying)? Answer that in reference to the New Covenant of Jeremiah 31 and maybe you might begin to see the problem with your system of thought…

Why didn’t Paul tell it to the Corinthians who were weak, sickly, and dying because they refused to discern the Body of Christ in the Lord’s Supper??

In fact, how come a direct guarantee between Christ’s Passion and physical healing is never made in either the narrative or didactic portions of the New Testament??

Yes, healing IS in the Atonement, but we have no promise that physical healing is guaranteed until this mortal has put on immortality. Not a single time in the Epistles are we told to “claim” our physical healing because Jesus freed us from all sickness here.

BTW Ricky………Jesus’ prayer that “They will be done on earth as it is in heaven” CANNOT in ANY MANNER be twisted to refer to God asking our permission to do His will. (MN: GaryV, Rickey CAN twist it to make it say that…or anything else he wants it to say. Remember, he’s constrained by his bad doctrine, not the context of Scriptures. Will you never never learn. )

WHERE do you get that?? WHERE is man’s will even ADDRESSED in there??

No, Rick, HOW is God’s will done in heaven?? GLADLY………JOYOUSLY……..without reservation…..without resistance.

How is God’s will done on earth?? Grudgingly. With murmuring. with resistance.

Jesus is praying that God’s will no longer be done this way on earth, but the way it’s done in heaven.

Again, man’s will isn’t even MENTIONED in this passage.

Careful: do not put your mouth on the mawnd of god’s assistant!

Yeah, you noticed the lowercase ‘g.’

Stay weak in Him,
Peter.

(MN: But the healings in the Gospels are not. )

Christ has redeemed US from the curse of the law…sickness, poverty, and spiritual death.

Every believer has the blood bought right to be healed. God is no respector of persons.

(MN: Rickey has committed the ultimate sin of mindless proof texting and mindless repetition. Rickey, there fore, has posted his last set of comments on this particular thread.

See ya, Rickey. )